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| Looks like the teachers may have been conspiring to pervert the course of justice? Jailable offence if so.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Looks like the teachers may have been conspiring to pervert the course of justice? Jailable offence if so.'"
If it was an ongoing police case and they did this I'd agree. I don't think it's a police issue though.
I suspect that they are just trying to get the stories straight so that the kid gets his compensation from the insurance company and the teachers don't end up getting fired or severely reprimanded over it.
Or it could be a case of minimising the potential damage to the school.
Whatever it is I think they are doing it in a terrible fashion.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"If it was an ongoing police case and they did this I'd agree. I don't think it's a police issue though.
I suspect that they are just trying to get the stories straight so that the kid gets his compensation from the insurance company and the teachers don't end up getting fired or severely reprimanded over it.
Or it could be a case of minimising the potential damage to the school.
Whatever it is I think they are doing it in a terrible fashion.'"
If it becomes a police case (as it may do or at least the teachers are threatening that) could it not be (maybe not, I do not know?). Could there be a question of black-mail or does that only arise where pecuniary gain is involved? A child has been seriously harmed, could that become a police matter or would it be always civil? The teachers / school are in the front line of a claim potentially and seem to have been acting (from what we can gather / infer) in a way that could falsify facts pertinent to that claim. If I were the teachers concerned I would be booking my one way ticket to South America now.
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| Will only be a police case if the child/ children have been neglected by the school. This will be brushed under the carpet. The only thing schools care about are offsted reports.
Write out a draft letter to the local rag, but show it to the headmaster first. State that if the school imposed discipline, starting with pupils wearing full correct uniform, and the children were supervised at all times, which they should be whilst in school grounds, then terrible accidents like this will not happen.
Worth mentioning the number of stand in teachers that have been brought in this year and the number who have been on long term sick.
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| Will only be a police case if the child/ children have been neglected by the school. This will be brushed under the carpet. The only thing schools care about are offsted reports.
Write out a draft letter to the local rag, but show it to the headmaster first. State that if the school imposed discipline, starting with pupils wearing full correct uniform, and the children were supervised at all times, which they should be whilst in school grounds, then terrible accidents like this will not happen.
Worth mentioning the number of stand in teachers that have been brought in this year and the number who have been on long term sick.
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| Quote toast="toast"Will only be a police case if the child/ children have been neglected by the school. This will be brushed under the carpet. The only thing schools care about are offsted reports.
Write out a draft letter to the local rag, but show it to the headmaster first. State that if the school imposed discipline, starting with pupils wearing full correct uniform, and the children were supervised at all times, which they should be whilst in school grounds, then terrible accidents like this will not happen.
Worth mentioning the number of stand in teachers that have been brought in this year and the number who have been on long term sick.'"
I've stayed out of this thread as I have insufficient facts to be able to comment but toast has deffo nailed it there.
If only they'd worn uniform, none of this would have happened. 
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| I'm on about the general level of discipline in the school in the first place. A uniform is a statement of discipline and is the first piece of discipline a schoolchild encounters in his schooling years.
Have a look at children coming out of schools and what their uniform looks like. This generally tells you the quality of the school, which is primarily enforced by the headmaster.
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| Quote toast="toast"Have a look at children coming out of schools and what their uniform looks like. This generally tells you the quality of the school.'"
IDS has the stats (or beliefs, if pushed) to back up this stupid 5hit.
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| Then for once, I must be in agreement with a Tory.
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| On reflection, if the OP's facts are correct then it may (although I am not sure of any ramifications for his son of so doing) be advisable to go to the police and explain exactly what has happened. They can then decide whether or not it is a police matter. If it is, then the teachers could be charged potentially be charged with perverting the course of justice. If not a police matter, so be it. The teachers come what may appear to have been attempting to contaminate evidence whether for a police enquiry or a possible / arguably probable civil action (by the victims parents on his behalf against the school for failure to keep order and protect their child). As a minor the son should not have been isolated but should have had a responsible adult to accompany him in order to ensure that he was not made to do something he did not understand or do something under duress. I think the lad did very well not to sign something he did not agree with. If this is pursued in any fashion I guess the teachers involved will be finished as teachers / headteacher - and rightly so if the OP is a fair summary of the facts. Having said that, the comment someone made about sweeping under the carpet is valid - chances are the police, school and local authority (if an LA school) will wish to do that.
I am NOT a lawyer and so do not take what I say as fact / good advice. It is, however, based on observation of other similar (but distinct) cases I have known of.
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| Quote Hull White Star="Hull White Star"Just playing devils advocate here but what if the teachers wanted to change your sons statement in favour of your son, ie from what your son has said in his statement if it were to go any further then you would get your ass sued and they are trying to prevent that?
Like I said, just playing devils advocate and trying to see another angle.'"
Not sure why the parents could be sued when the teachers school are in loco parentis. It's the school / teachers that may (I suspect, will) get sued. If that happens they will realise just how stupid they have been if the OP sums up what happened correctly (which I have little doubt he / she does).
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| the whole uniform enforcement thing only ever creates tension which leads to the little shiites being even more rebellious, it's complete . Naughty kids are naughty kids and telling them how to dress will just make them not want to comply with uniform rules even more.
On topic, it all smells very dodgy, I'd write to Ofsted, the local rag, and a councillor/MP saying what's happened.
I'll have a word with my mum when I see her, she used to work alongside ofsted to do with child protection sort of things and was very good at ripping teachers a new one when they didn't go by the book, she should know what to do/say.
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