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| When the tories wanted to cut the winter fuel benefit so Labour commissioned a report that stated 4000 people will die? Tories did the right thing and dropped it. I even remember the tweet from Rachel reeves, stating how abhorrent it was that the tories wanted to get rid of it
Lmao all you left wing idiots voted for this. Blood on your hands.
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| Didn’t one of the no names Conservative candidates for leadership not espouse a similar idea but a few months ago. I wouldn’t compare what Labour have to do with what de Pfeffel did during the pandemic. I am sure you can remind us how many people lost their lives due to the failure and corruption of his administration.
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| Whataboutery at its finest lmao
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| If i freeze to death this winter, will you not make fun of it please?. Thanks in advance.
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| No one knows the weather for this winter so every figure is pure conjecture but what de Pfeffel did is fact. I would say over the years the pensioners have been the biggest beneficiaries with the triple lock. I believe the next increase in the state pension exceeds the money lost for those who no longer will be eligible for the winter fuel allowance.
What about reinstating the fuel allowance for all but remove the triple lock ?
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"No one knows the weather for this winter so every figure is pure conjecture but what de Pfeffel did is fact. I would say over the years the pensioners have been the biggest beneficiaries with the triple lock. I believe the next increase in the state pension exceeds the money lost for those who no longer will be eligible for the winter fuel allowance.
What about reinstating the fuel allowance for all but remove the triple lock ?'"
If the tories had removed the WFA we both know you'd have hauled them over the coals for it. WTF has Johnson got to do with it? Deflection and whataboutery of Olympic standard.
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| It’s fact over fiction, I was not the one who started the thread to try to make an unquantifiable political statement.
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| It’s all about facts. The tories wanted to cut the WFA yet Labour commissioned a report stating that 4K pensioners would die so the tories stopped it. How come Labour are content in letting 4K pensioners die to save £1b yet are happy to send £10b to South Africa to help with net zero? Try and answer with no whatabouttery
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| I am sure you will be able to back up your last statement that Labour is given 10b to South Africa annually and GB news, Daily Mail and the Express are not reliable sources.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am sure you will be able to back up your last statement that Labour is given 10b to South Africa annually and GB news, Daily Mail and the Express are not reliable sources.'"
You mean the 11.6 billion that Labour have pledged to South Africa? Go on google it. It’s in the left wing papers. Anyway, I notice you avoided my other question so I assume you are happy for the OAPs to die. Funny to see Jimmy Savilles mates approval rating is already in the dumps. Tories will easily be back in next elections lmaooo
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| This would be the pledge made by de Pfeffel which Labour hope to honour. This is the same de Pfeffel who made up the story of Jimmy Saville which was discredited as false but I suppose there are some on the fringes of society who believed it.
The majority of deaths in winter is more to do with the lack of insulation in the housing stock, I think we can remember which Government it was who cancelled the scheme.
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| Quote Scarlet Pimpernell="Scarlet Pimpernell"This would be the pledge made by de Pfeffel which Labour hope to honour. This is the same de Pfeffel who made up the story of Jimmy Saville which was discredited as false but I suppose there are some on the fringes of society who believed it.
The majority of deaths in winter is more to do with the lack of insulation in the housing stock, I think we can remember which Government it was who cancelled the scheme.'"
It isn't false though is it ? Starmer was head of the CPS when they refused to bring charges. As Starmer said about Johnson "you're in charge so the buck stops with you".
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