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| funny how on the BBC website the news about the falklands talks about this
Quote eagerness to give us (Britain) maximum supportThere were no such difficulties between Britain and the United States. A telegram from the British embassy in Washington, dated 3 May, shows that the US Defence Secretary, Caspar Weinberger, had expressed "eagerness to give us (Britain) maximum support". The US even offered the use of an aircraft carrier, the Eisenhower.'"
yet SKY news reports this
Quote eagerness to give us (Britain) maximum supportRonald Reagan issued a last-ditch appeal to Margaret Thatcher to abandon her campaign to retake the Falklands and to hand over the islands to international peacekeepers, according to official documents made public today.
Files released by the National Archives at Kew, South West London, under the 30-year rule show that as British troops closed in on final victory, the US president made a late-night phone call to Mrs Thatcher urging her not to completely humiliate the Argentines.
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Mr Reagan made his call to Mrs Thatcher in Downing Street at 11.30pm London time on May 31, 1982, as British forces were beginning the battle for Port Stanley, the Falklands capital.
The Americans had already proposed sending a joint US-Brazilian peacekeeping mission, and the president suggested that the time had come to show magnanimity.
"The best chance for peace was before complete Argentine humiliation," he told her. "As the UK now had the upper hand militarily, it should strike a deal now."'"
So much for the special relationship when it came to the crunch America was more interested in keeping its good relationship with Latin America than with Britain. A very significant difference of opinion as opposed to that put out by the beeb.
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| She had an election to win.
You know, 'Rule Britannia', flag waving, and all that bollox.
It worked.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"She had an election to win.
You know, 'Rule Britannia', flag waving, and all that bollox.
It worked.'"
Maybe you should have read the other released dispatches, as winning an election wasn't on her mind.
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| Quote World of Redboy="World of Redboy"Maybe you should have read the other released dispatches, as winning an election wasn't on her mind.'"
I know, she was all consumed by the record unemploment she'd created since the 1930's.
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| Quote Durham Giant="Durham Giant"funny how on the BBC website the news about the falklands talks about this
yet SKY news reports this
So much for the special relationship when it came to the crunch America was more interested in keeping its good relationship with Latin America than with Britain. A very significant difference of opinion as opposed to that put out by the beeb.'"
Two reports three weeks apart (which was a long time in the conflict) which are probably both absolutely true, the BBC choose to select one, Sky the other, does it show political bias or editorial choice, do you seriously not read everything in the knowledge that someone has specifically selected and/or written the article with a viewpoint in mind to present to you ?
The truth is usually gathered by reading all presentations and questioning all you read/view unless the individual wishes to be deliberately swayed in one direction or another (football supporter politics).
But you knew that anyway.
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| How do the two stories timeline? Are they concurrent or does one preceed the other?
Not enough info, but:
'News reporting is biased'
You're surprised by this?
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| Quote Scooter Nik="Scooter Nik"How do the two stories timeline? Are they concurrent or does one preceed the other?
Not enough info, but:
'News reporting is biased'
You're surprised by this?'"
When the highest elected parliamentarians can mislead government and the populi news reporters have nothing to worry about.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"Two reports three weeks apart (which was a long time in the conflict) which are probably both absolutely true, the BBC choose to select one, Sky the other, does it show political bias or editorial choice, do you seriously not read everything in the knowledge that someone has specifically selected and/or written the article with a viewpoint in mind to present to you ?
The truth is usually gathered by reading all presentations and questioning all you read/view unless the individual wishes to be deliberately swayed in one direction or another (football supporter politics).
But you knew that anyway.'"
They were two news reports which came out today and were chosen to be edited the way they were. They are both based on the release of the paers.
The BBC one i would say presents a very partial view which is innacurate.
I agree with you that you cannot really believe the media and that you need to check different sources BUT it is pretty significant the differences.
This is important both at the time and for now.
When you think about the debate about Europe which is going on for the BBC to highlight a disagreement with France that was easily solved which will be ammo for the eurosceptics compared to the downgrading of the role of the USA in the Falklands crisis when lots of the eurosceptics argue we should be forging closer links with rather than Europe shows that the realpolotik is somewhat different.
Europe is more likely to be a natural ally / trading partner for the UK than America will be as when it comes to the crunch the USA will go its own way
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"I know, she was all consumed by the record unemploment she'd created since the 1930's.'"
I never realised that she was PM for so long.
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| Quote wigan_rlfc="wigan_rlfc"I never realised that she was PM for so long.'"
It felt like it to many of us, trust me.
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| The media is biased in all kinds off fields, not just international relations or politics. It is very biased in the corporate playground too.
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A friend of mine recently mentioned that back in early 1982, in the back pages of the FT, he read a couple of column inches with regards to potential oil discoveries in the South Atlantic around a bunch of Islands he's never heard of. A few months later, we all know what happened.
If you look now, there are oil explorations all round the Falklands.
Here's an interesting pdf from the London School of Economics
www2.lse.ac.uk/IDEAS/publication ... freije.pdf
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A friend of mine recently mentioned that back in early 1982, in the back pages of the FT, he read a couple of column inches with regards to potential oil discoveries in the South Atlantic around a bunch of Islands he's never heard of. A few months later, we all know what happened.
If you look now, there are oil explorations all round the Falklands.
Here's an interesting pdf from the London School of Economics
www2.lse.ac.uk/IDEAS/publication ... freije.pdf
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