Danibo160 wrote:JOC is very quickly becoming one of my fav players to watch, constant intensity in D and can pick a line. I think having him at 13 and ackers on the field too offered a lot yesterday
We looked miles better yesterday with out Cameron Smith stifling everything.
Smith needs to be moved to prop, but i think the majority think that, hopefully the coach sees it that way too.
Exeter Rhino wrote:Happy with Frawley as captain. I thought Arthur would warm to him when he came in (hence my comment a few weeks back about Arthur making some unpopular decisions - remember most people on here wanted to bin Frawley after a handful of games, unjustly IMO). .
I think it might be wise for everyone to take a deep breath after yesterday and look at the season as a whole. The reason why we are struggling to make the top half of the table is down to inept performances from Frawley amongst others. In fact inept is being kind, he can only be described as dreadful across the season. It wasn’t just a handful (five) games, we only have 6 games left before he has shown he is fit to wear the shirt. If he takes 20 games next season to come to the fore we are in the same situation again. He performed well yesterday, as did quite a few others, but it’s just one game. Let’s see how he and the team do against Wire next week, to prove we’re not a one game a season team. As for keeping him as Captain, I’m happy for him to be the de facto Capt if it means Cam Smith doesn’t necessarily start the game or takes on a different role as some have suggested. I’d prefer to see the ball in Frawley’s hands going straight to another player other than Cam Smith. I’d keep Cam Smith as the official Captain, I don’t see the point of demeaning him by taking the armband off him, he’s been an honest and loyal servant that deserves to see the remainder of the season out as official Captain even if he reduces his minutes and on field responsibility now and then for the sake of the team. It will be interesting to see what Arthur does next week, because it wasn’t a master stroke of his to drop Smith. I’d like to see us go with a similar set up to yesterday with Smith as more of a ball handling prop if necessary. Let’s enjoy yesterday for what it was, but knee jerk talk of Brad Arthur finally finding and utilising the so far untapped talents of the likes of Frawley may be a tad optimistic. I certainly wouldn’t be planning an assault on the top two next year based on the majority of this squad.
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Cam is good in defence,just doesn't have the speed as a ball playing LF. Should use him more as an extra prop and focus on taking runs early or passing and not trying to create
It was a superb performance from the team , although there are still many areas to work on. We now have a coach who has many years experience in the NRL ,and boy does it show. We have line speed in d , forwards running in channels against halfbacks , kicking to corners , and a new man in Frawley - all this in a few weeks. Brads comment that this performance means nothing , if we don`t do the same against Wire says it all - this is the attitude we want . I have to say that we don`t have the calibre of players to play at this level every week ( too many weak links eg. Fusi , Sangare , Morofski , etc ) but if we can keep Brad even for just a year , I feel confident that with some sensible recruitment ( not one of strengths ) , we can become a realistic top 6 contender next year. Finally , all you numpties who kept making excuses for RS ( not his team , need dry grounds etc ) should hang your heads in shame - he was clueless and should have gone months ago. When you watch a coach interviewed after a game , and you think he was not watching the same game as me - that tells you everything !!!! As Brad says , Wigan counts for nothing , unless we back it up with the same against Wire - now that we all agree with and the attitude that we all want. Come on you Rhinos !!!!!
Personally, I lost faith around the time of the Challenge Cup loss, and the performances after then built on that. I wasn't happy with last year but I did think we needed a lot of new blood, and was sort of willing to accept the chaos it caused. What changed for me was that despite the new faces the problems with the performances were the same.
Should I have hopped off the Smith train earlier? Maybe, with the benefit of hindsight. But there weren't many people calling for Smith's head when Ackers and Croft were announced in the off season. Were you suggesting Smith should have been sacked in 2022? If not, why not? Wasn't it obvious as he turned us from relegation candidates to grand finalists that he was utterly incompetent? Or does that not count for some reason?
I just don't see the point in having a dig at people for hoping that things would turn around. Anyway Arthur seems like the real deal, and I do like what he says after matches, calling out individuals for issues with performances even when we win is a refreshing change. I think I'd be happy if he stays even if for just one year.
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