Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:27 pm
Emagdnim13
Club Captain
Joined: Jul 04 2015 Posts: 2322
I don't think it was malicious or had intent but I do think there was some contact with the head. This year that would merit a ban, however silly. That said the occasional one like Kasianos that got nothing so it's pretty much a 50/50.
Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:31 pm
Magic Superbeetle
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Joined: Aug 24 2006 Posts: 5214 Location: Another dimension
christopher wrote:I don’t ‘want’ welsby banned, i want consistency from the MRP. Fusitua got a ban for s very similar tackle not do long back.
On Knowles, that’s just cut and dried, youd look daft defending that.
We have been wanting consistency all year. But until anyone can present any evidence there was actually head contact (I have gone frame by frame on what’s on line and nothing looks like head contact to me) then it is consistent that there’s no ban. As I say, you can’t ban Welsby because the player got up with a bloody nose, that’s not evidence on its own (circumstantial as the courts would say)
Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:33 pm
kjrhino
Club Captain
Joined: Sep 09 2016 Posts: 83
Magic Superbeetle wrote:Contact with the floor? Carried from a previous tackle that burst on his head whipping back? Head collision? Probably 10 more if anyone could be bothered to continue.
The day we use outcomes as a reason to ban we’re done. No angle showed any head contact from Welsby despite the result of the bust nose.
Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:33 pm
christopher
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Joined: Nov 19 2002 Posts: 13619 Location: West Yorkshire
Magic Superbeetle wrote:We have been wanting consistency all year. But until anyone can present any evidence there was actually head contact (I have gone frame by frame on what’s on line and nothing looks like head contact to me) then it is consistent that there’s no ban. As I say, you can’t ban Welsby because the player got up with a bloody nose, that’s not evidence on its own (circumstantial as the courts would say)
Yet I see his shoulder hit his head, if the MRP also see it it should be a ban.
Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:34 pm
Seth
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 16 2004 Posts: 6724 Location: Meltham
How's it not evidence? How did he get it then, by picking his nose?! He didn't have it before the tackle. As already said fusitua got done for a similar one
Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:38 pm
Loiner at large
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Joined: Oct 30 2019 Posts: 557
Lets just get on with it and play the game. Knowles should be banned and if it is appealed it should be deemed as frivolous and extended. If that does not happen demonstrates a definate bias to players in England squad (not saints). Everything else benefit of the doubt and move on.
Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:38 pm
kjrhino
Club Captain
Joined: Sep 09 2016 Posts: 83
christopher wrote:I don’t ‘want’ welsby banned, i want consistency from the MRP. Fusitua got a ban for s very similar tackle not do long back.
On Knowles, that’s just cut and dried, youd look daft defending that.
What about the Matty Lees collision on Sio. What was the penalty for? Looked like knees to the head but not sure what he penalised. If it was for knees to the head then Dangerous contact and a ban / should also have been a yellow.
Post subject: Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford)
Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:42 pm
ArthurClues
Club Captain
Joined: Jan 24 2020 Posts: 2656
christopher wrote:I don’t ‘want’ welsby banned, i want consistency from the MRP. Fusitua got a ban for s very similar tackle not do long back.
On Knowles, that’s just cut and dried, youd look daft defending that.
Difference with Fusitua's was that the impact came after the ball had gone. He actually ducked getting banned for a couple of very similar tackles earlier in the season. The part of me that is Leeds at all costs says - yes ban Welsby! That's the terrible thing about the MRP this season. We fans aren't talking about the great game in the offing, we are talking about which players should be prevented from playing in it. It's Cullen and co that need the red card.
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