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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:00 pm 
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Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:Given we will now be down to 2 props, one of which is the ailing Prior it’s hard to see a win v Hull and Cas in the next 2.
Toulouse away becomes potentially a very big game.
Toulouse have KR at home and Wakey away before playing us. They have Salford and FC at home after us, we will be losing at home to Wigan and away at Catalan.

We could be 11th at end of July and if, big IF Toulouse pick up form , looking over our shoulder at the drop . At best I reckon we will be 10th.

Although Smith needs to plan for next year, he also needs some results. He won’t get much of a honeymoon spell.

On a separate point, I could not see JJB last night

JJB was there.

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:33 am 
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Seth wrote:I'd agree on the worry about props but losing Tetevano is neither here nor there, Donaldson is adequate like for like cover.


That’s almost doing Donaldson a disservice at this point…

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:31 am 
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The positive with the lack of props is that Walters is getting game time.
Smith clearly sees him as a prop - and he has the size.
Just needs to add some aggression - but game time will help with that.

And if we can get Sangare early, then Tetevano really is no loss.

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:30 am 
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To be honest wether we get Sangare or not Tetavano is no loss!

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:37 am 
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malcadele wrote:To be honest wether we get Sangare or not Tetavano is no loss!

Whether we like it or not, he is a loss. Every time he's been available for selection he's been picked. Simple as that. Until the club gets a grip in terms of recruitment and retention (and I hope that includes his exit) that will be the case. We have no depth at all at prop. It's the most damning indictment of Agar's tenure.

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:41 am 
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GH and Agar badly miscalculated on the CV-19 topic. Without scrums they thought that smaller more mobile and athletic forwards could carry us forwards. As soon as we returned to “regular” rugby, that (poor) idea was dead in the water, and no we are paying the price.






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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:33 am 
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ArthurClues wrote:JJB was there.

He will be moving upstairs in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:35 am 
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batleyrhino wrote:GH and Agar badly miscalculated on the CV-19 topic. Without scrums they thought that smaller more mobile and athletic forwards could carry us forwards. As soon as we returned to “regular” rugby, that (poor) idea was dead in the water, and no we are paying the price.

Totally agree.

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:40 am 
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I'm lost on how scrums made any difference to their decision making, they're non contested and the brief rest to pack a scrum shouldn't have influenced recruitment either? And I don't really see us having a more mobile and athletic pack, just a small one.

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 Post subject: Re: Coaching
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:39 pm 
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I meant they thought there would be a change in emphasis of forwards I suppose, rather than just scrums per se. I think the costs were also attractive to Gary, and Rich thought he could do something with smaller forwards. They got it wrong and we’re paying for it.






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