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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:45 pm 
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Hudd-Shay wrote:Don't start that! :lol: It's also interesting to see the penalty count. It's not how many you get sometimes, it's whereabouts on't pitch you get 'em. As you rightly say it doesn't help us with the debate about the pack but remember we lost this game by one point. :DEPRESSED:

I was wrong about the penalty count and thought at the game there was more conceded by us.
The timing of them as well was a sickener, we finally started to get some momentum and the home support something to get behind them and then :CRAZY: stuff, game gone :FRUSRATED:
All part and parcel of being a Fax fan as we all well know.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:26 am 
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One of the main turning points for me was when we had just defended our line and got a relieving penalty only for our captain to throw an awful pass above a forwards head that was knocked on. If that does not scream to a coach that a player is fatigued then I really don't know what else will. Then with about 6 minutes to go the same player takes the wrong option, runs round in a circle, and we end up trying to get a drop goal off in the mudbath area of the pitch. Im a massive Moore fan but I can't help but think that the reason Jouffret was left on the bench was to prove a point, its the same way that Joe Martin has been brought in to play fullback and Walmsley has been made the scapegoat and has not had a look in.

Last year I said the same thing about the Springer signing, Grix must have known exactly the type of player he were getting when he signed him and for this season its like he is seeing something he does not like in a few of the players sitting out which could suggest a lack of research on the signings.







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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:39 am 
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Moore is a top player in this division but I say again, I don't think making him captain has done him or the team any good.






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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:00 am 
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:One of the main turning points for me was when we had just defended our line and got a relieving penalty only for our captain to throw an awful pass above a forwards head that was knocked on. If that does not scream to a coach that a player is fatigued then I really don't know what else will. Then with about 6 minutes to go the same player takes the wrong option, runs round in a circle, and we end up trying to get a drop goal off in the mudbath area of the pitch. Im a massive Moore fan but I can't help but think that the reason Jouffret was left on the bench was to prove a point, its the same way that Joe Martin has been brought in to play fullback and Walmsley has been made the scapegoat and has not had a look in.

Last year I said the same thing about the Springer signing, Grix must have known exactly the type of player he were getting when he signed him and for this season its like he is seeing something he does not like in a few of the players sitting out which could suggest a lack of research on the signings.

On Jouffret can’t make my mind up wether with Wood missing leaving him out of the 17 completely would have been an even bigger statement (and he’d done that against London) than after including him and not even to get on the field.
Grix stated that both he and Finny had a similar game plan just rolling the same middles on and off the field.
From that I can only think that LJ was on the bench to give cover for the 1,6,7 & 9 slots which I suppose makes sense.
If that was the case and even if Brandon was still okay for the full 80, when chasing the game at the end LJ could have come on for one of the halves, say Aston to bring a bit of extra zip and momentum to the side, so we’ve focussed on the 9 slot but other options were possible.
Downside of that it would have used up one of the bigger middle interchanges SG had based his game plan on.
Anyway, all conjecture and I for one am always wiser after the event, it didn’t happen and we’ll never know.

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