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 Post subject: Re: SPRINGER
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:18 pm 
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Sideshow Bob wrote:I get what you're saying but saving money means poorer results, which will affect longer term fan base so may be counter productive. Plus anyone who has worked for an organization which is 'Cost Saving Driven' will know that is just as bad as having a bad apple in the barrel.

I totally agree with you. As you say SG has got us to third which, on our budget, could be seen as a success. Let's hope the winning run continues on Sunday. Up The Fax!






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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:36 pm 
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I dont know were the idea that springer is a bad apple in the squad as come from if somebody on here is in the know then far enough you know more than me about what as gone on behind the scenes. But reading the comments from ian croad and simon grix there is no insinuation of springer having a bad attitude. From what i have been told grix was not happy with gadwins defence and he was being stubborn about the changes grix wanted him to make to that area of is game they came to a impasse on this and that was why the decision was made for him to leave.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:04 pm 
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terry silver wrote:I dont know were the idea that springer is a bad apple in the squad as come from if somebody on here is in the know then far enough you know more than me about what as gone on behind the scenes. But reading the comments from ian croad and simon grix there is no insinuation of springer having a bad attitude. From what i have been told grix was not happy with gadwins defence and he was being stubborn about the changes grix wanted him to make to that area of is game they came to a impasse on this and that was why the decision was made for him to leave.


This is exactly what I was told... Simon wasn't happy with Gadwin's work around the ruck/defence. And in fairness if you watch the highlights of when Gadwin played you can't really argue with it. I agree he was exciting going forward but did that offset the drawbacks... Suppose thats down to peoples opinions. But more importantly the only opinion that matters is the head coaches. He was our 'Marquee' signing so it will free some money up. Only concern is that there's no one available to sign in his replacement.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:21 pm 
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fax_insider wrote:This is exactly what I was told... Simon wasn't happy with Gadwin's work around the ruck/defence. And in fairness if you watch the highlights of when Gadwin played you can't really argue with it.


Hopefully Grix has learnt a lesson in that respect because he could probably have watched any of Springer's games for his previous clubs and come to the conclusion he wasn't the best in defence.







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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:33 pm 
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Hopefully Grix has learnt a lesson in that respect because he could probably have watched any of Springer's games for his previous clubs and come to the conclusion he wasn't the best in defence.


Maybe he believed he was able to coach him to become a better player in this aspect. Then again was it Simon's decision to sign Springer?

Ultimately as a fan I was excited when we signed Springer but i've not been blown away by his performances. We move on.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:47 pm 
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terry silver wrote:I dont know were the idea that springer is a bad apple in the squad as come from ........ he was being stubborn about the changes grix wanted him to make to that area of is game they came to a impasse on this and that was why the decision was made for him to leave.


This is what I meant by 'Bad Apple'. Challenging authority is always tricky (especially if you're right!), and someone challenging the coach and openly disagreeing with him will affect the attitude within the team.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:19 pm 
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What a load of bollx.In last six games he featured we shipped an average of around 6 points a game-fantastic...
What ******* difference did it make ? I'd rather he saved his energy for going forward,we have plenty of others who only have defense in their lockers anyway....

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Beaujangles wrote:What a load of bollx.In last six games he featured we shipped an average of around 6 points a game-fantastic...
What ******* difference did it make ? I'd rather he saved his energy for going forward,we have plenty of others who only have defense in their lockers anyway....


This. I thought against Haven we badly missed him and Borough and the quick play the balls we got on the back of Springer.







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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:36 pm 
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At the end of the day the lad was o.k. but no worldbeater. On we go. Up The Fax! King's Head, shuddersfield, Salopian Raising Tides 5.0% Mmm! :DRUNK:






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 Post subject: Re: SPRINGER
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:01 pm 
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Around quick play the balls the two players in the team with the quickest are Greg Worthington and Elliot Morris… I’ve heard some poor assessments of Greg because he’s not scored. Just keep an eye on him this week: wins the ruck the majority of the time, teams generally don't score down that edge and his quick play the balls… one of the best players we have, my opinion! Up the Panthers

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