what is it with you and griffin? hes playing better than tuime atm, run hard last 2 matches saved a certain try last night, its our forwards who are the problem,

Griffin has limitations as a centre, but lazy? He has worked his backside off these last 2 games. In fact he has made 33 carries in 2 games. The most of anyone in the team. And alot of them have been the hard yards getting it off our line.

When Kelly is back Connor will move to centre and Griffin has to go into the second row for me. Preferably as a starter.

I agree its the forwards who are the main problem but to say Griffin is playing better than Tuimavave is rubbish.
Carlos goes looking for work,Griffin doesnt.
He also cost us the match at HKR. I have said previously he cant jump for a ball for such a big man.He was facing the ball as it was kicked towards him and had two options.He could have and should have attacked the ball using his strength and height or used his brain and let the HKR player to catch the ball then make the tackle

Our backs aren’t the problem and neither is Griffin. The forwards or rather lack of them that can make any ground.
Until we make changes/improvements in the forwards we will do nothing and achieve nothing.
Miloudi was a liability defensively last night and shooting out the line like a headless chicken is just an example of that.
Griffin I thought had a decent game and defensively thought played well and worked hard. We didn’t utilise him or Faraimo at all and cas targeted our right hand side which was weak. To be fair to Carlos he wasn’t helped last night having to cover Miloudi

Griffin didn’t cost us the match at HKR, in that case Sneyd is just as guilty for not putting his kick into touch, and also our middle that then failed to deal with Rovers making 70 odd metres to be able to put the kick in the first place.

Thought Carlos offered very little last night , miloudi isn't a winger , not going to be nagarive about him, thought he was unlucky with a few decisions against him. Thought houghton looked really lively when moved to 13 , looked dangerous been first receiver and having to make decisions . Don't understand what people see in masi , seems to go backwards more than forwards, happy with the lines lane runs , but our bench needs some impact rapid , Bowden will help if we can get him fit. Really pleasing seeing Shaul get plenty of ball , long may that continue , he's class and we need to play to his strengths . Where have all the young speedy wingers gone !! Can't tenner the last time we gave a young kid with lightning pace a chance ! Reece Lyne ha, probably as been , but none spring to mind

It was a team effort that cost us that game , no individual in my opinion

So you did , my bad . We need to keep Kelly . We need has many class players as possible, our squad is weak enough as it is . Oloughlin has picked his far few injuries himself for Wigan , but they don’t just get rid of him at the first chance. . To get the right players next season , we may have to pay some fees . Pearson needs to get his cheque book out soon . If it means backing Radford or someone else , it needs doing or he’ll lose some fans . We don’t need 7/8 players like some have mentioned. 4/5 are needed though .

Exactly that was my point as Griffin did not cost us the game.

He copped some flack last season and rightly so but he is certainly not one that needs criticising currently as he is way down on that list for mine.