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adam walne apparently has been released
have to fear for sam wood, will we see him play regular again at the giants now hes gone out on loan ... not really a good sign, he never let us down when he played too, we shall see
alot of players get shipped out on loan and the parent club/coach doesnt even watch the game or how they are doing..
liam johnson and mikey wood at bradford two recent examples of just being forgotten about and never to return
GIANTSRL wrote:adam walne apparently has been released
have to fear for sam wood, will we see him play regular again at the giants now hes gone out on loan ... not really a good sign, he never let us down when he played too, we shall see
alot of players get shipped out on loan and the parent club/coach doesnt even watch the game or how they are doing..
liam johnson and mikey wood at bradford two recent examples of just being forgotten about and never to return
They werent forgotten about. Steve Hardisty is in charge of player performance. Just because the head coach doesn’t go doesn’t mean no one is- or that the loan coach isn’t giving his feedback. The two you mentioned must have been deemed not good enough for SL. If they aren’t standing out at champ level then they won’t at SL. Darnell had two loan spells- and there he is making first team- with no. 1 on his back! Matty English went to Dewsbury on loan- now he’s in first team. If Sam does well he will be back.
Steve hardisty is education and welfare now, there is no player performance manager and when steve was it was for scholarship and academy not first team
Surely it is simply a case of getting a recording of each game and the coaches watching how these players perform. I can’t think of many that have been loaned out as they can’t make the first team coming back to haunt us when they are sold.
Yeah think it was confirmed on the full 80 minutes podcast that Wood and Johnson were never watched by Stone or Woolford.
Think it will be different for Sam, from what I've read he's had a really bright start at Batley, I'd be disappointed if he didn't have a future with us... However, in saying that it does make you wonder given Woolfords comments when we resigned wardle,about us needing depth at back row / centre when we've sent Sam out.
Joined: Feb 17 2009 Posts: 15511 Location: Huddersfield
HuddsRL5 wrote:Yeah think it was confirmed on the full 80 minutes podcast that Wood and Johnson were never watched by Stone or Woolford.
Think it will be different for Sam, from what I've read he's had a really bright start at Batley, I'd be disappointed if he didn't have a future with us... However, in saying that it does make you wonder given Woolfords comments when we resigned wardle,about us needing depth at back row / centre when we've sent Sam out.
yep thats what i listened too it was a good listen!
sam wood wont be a centre hes a second rower now hes that big... like you say is he in woolfords plans when hes bringing in wardle for the second row. time will tell
on adam walne ...he played today at workington... way way down the pecking order, two seniors played, farrell and butterworth
djhudds wrote:Steve hardisty is education and welfare now, there is no player performance manager and when steve was it was for scholarship and academy not first team
Sorry - I though we were discussing loaning out past academy players. As Stella kid has said- none of those sent out in loan have come back to haunt us- which surely tells us what we need to know about whether we were right to let them go. It’s a sad fact that we can’t keep players who aren’t good enough just because we brought them through our academy. We are always going to get slimmer pickings than certain other clubs. It’s also interesting that teams like Wigan and wire have lads from this area in their academy and scholarship squads.
GIANTSRL wrote:yep thats what i listened too it was a good listen!
sam wood wont be a centre hes a second rower now hes that big... like you say is he in woolfords plans when hes bringing in wardle for the second row. time will tell
on adam walne ...he played today at workington... way way down the pecking order, two seniors played, farrell and butterworth
He is a big lad, but he's playing in the centres at Batley. Imagine a backline with the senior twins, wood and Jake wardle, massive aerial threat there.
I think Sams time will come in another couple of years. Some players take a little longer to develop physically and I think he will in time. Hes still only 21... I think once hes grown into his frame he will be a great asset at loose - a Steve Menzies type of player down the line.
Joined: Feb 17 2009 Posts: 15511 Location: Huddersfield
jools wrote:Sorry - I though we were discussing loaning out past academy players. As Stella kid has said- none of those sent out in loan have come back to haunt us- which surely tells us what we need to know about whether we were right to let them go. It’s a sad fact that we can’t keep players who aren’t good enough just because we brought them through our academy. We are always going to get slimmer pickings than certain other clubs. It’s also interesting that teams like Wigan and wire have lads from this area in their academy and scholarship squads.
but maybe they are also being lost to the game of rugby league, this is where the argument for reserves comes in, they may have progressed better playing in the giants reserve games... playing to our systems and the first team coach would actually turn up to games like they used to do.
we cant afford as a game to be losing players.
warrington got a player from siddal who the giants were desperate for.... went for the cash to warrington
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