PCollinson1990 wrote:How can you say our structure in attack was poor when we were clearly playing a %ge game of keeping the ball and working Cas down the middle? I'll take "poor attacking structure" all the way to Wembley and Old Trafford if it works like it did against Cas.
He's probably referring to them first 20 mins or so, when we was camped on the cas line, we should of posted more points, and Snyed would of helped with that, hence we took the 2 points at every opportunity in the second half, which turned out to be the correct decision
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PCollinson1990 wrote:How can you say our structure in attack was poor when we were clearly playing a %ge game of keeping the ball and working Cas down the middle? I'll take "poor attacking structure" all the way to Wembley and Old Trafford if it works like it did against Cas.
Like I said, it'll come unstuck. We send everything up the middle then teams tighten up their defensive line. Castleford's backs didn't help out at all and their forwards were left to suffer and give up good yards. Won't work against a better drilled less off-the-cuff team like Leeds. We need tactical advantage not just physical to win trophies, Sneyd has kicked us out of trouble many times.
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Sneyd's 40/20 turned the tide at Wembley, then both tries came from his incredibly accurate bomb kicking. Neither Connor nor Kelly could do that currently.
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the cal train wrote:
PCollinson1990 wrote:How can you say our structure in attack was poor when we were clearly playing a %ge game of keeping the ball and working Cas down the middle? I'll take "poor attacking structure" all the way to Wembley and Old Trafford if it works like it did against Cas.
Like I said, it'll come unstuck. We send everything up the middle then teams tighten up their defensive line. Castleford's backs didn't help out at all and their forwards were left to suffer and give up good yards. Won't work against a better drilled less off-the-cuff team like Leeds. We need tactical advantage not just physical to win trophies, Sneyd has kicked us out of trouble many times.
Think you are doing the coaching staff a diservice to be honest with that. Radford and his team have come up with a plan twice now for nullifying Cas' attacking threat and its worked both times. I've laughed at the Cas fans for saying we are boring and only do 5 drives and a kick, which we don't. What we have done since Radfords early days is learnt from the mistakes made, seen how teams like Leeds and Wigan have played % rugby & played expansive rugby when needed taken that onboard and added it to our game, thats what Cas need to learn like Radford & Hull have done.
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Chris71 wrote:Think you are doing the coaching staff a diservice to be honest with that. Radford and his team have come up with a plan twice now for nullifying Cas' attacking threat and its worked both times. I've laughed at the Cas fans for saying we are boring and only do 5 drives and a kick, which we don't. What we have done since Radfords early days is learnt from the mistakes made, seen how teams like Leeds and Wigan have played % rugby & played expansive rugby when needed taken that onboard and added it to our game, thats what Cas need to learn like Radford & Hull have done.
Of course - can't say it didn't work when we came away with the win, but we're going to need Sneyd's brains sooner or later.
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the cal train wrote:Of course - can't say it didn't work when we came away with the win, but we're going to need Sneyd's brains sooner or later.
Don't think thats in question but thought 1-17 on Sunday played exceptionally well so how do you justify dropping anyone unless fatigue or carrying a knock? Connor has certainly taken his change and learnt from his first game early in the season where he admitted he tried to hard to impress. If anything I would leave Connor in and put him with Sneyd and give Kelly a break as he has taken some pretty tough treatment the last few games and a rest may do him good.
Thats said it all depends on how the players perform in training as to who makes the 17 on Friday but what a position to be in as a club dilemas on who you pick or dont.
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the cal train wrote:Of course - can't say it didn't work when we came away with the win, but we're going to need Sneyd's brains sooner or later.
Sneyds very good at strangling teams and killing them off with smart plays and kicks. Repeat sets etc. Think in that heat the other day his extra smarts and kicking would have turned the screw on cas that bit more and in turn brought more points
1. Jamie Shaul 2. Mahe Fonua 3. Carlos Tuimavave 4. Josh Griffin 5. Fetuli Talanoa 6. Albert Kelly 7. Marc Sneyd 8. Scott Taylor 9. Danny Houghton 10. Liam Watts 12. Mark Minichello 14. Jake Connor 16. Jordan Thompson 17. Danny Washbrook 19. Steve Michaels 21. Sika Manu 22. Josh Bowden 25. Jansin Turgut 28. Brad Fash
SHAUL FONUA CONNOR TUIMAVAVE TALANOA KELLY SNEYD TAYLOR HOUGHTON WATTS MINICHELLO WASHBROOK MANU BOWDEN THOMPSON TURGUT FASH thats what I would go with put a bit of distance between us and wakey then look to rest some next week at cas
fc23 wrote:SHAUL FONUA CONNOR TUIMAVAVE TALANOA KELLY SNEYD TAYLOR HOUGHTON WATTS MINICHELLO WASHBROOK MANU BOWDEN THOMPSON TURGUT FASH thats what I would go with put a bit of distance between us and wakey then look to rest some next week at cas
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