Woeful performance in all aspects, defence, attack, effort, tactics, lack of a plan B it was like watching something from the Agar era again.

Hopefully like after Widnes away last year the team responds and puts things right, but these erratic performances will prevent us from moving on from being a mid table team to a top4 one.

It does seem though that players are playing with knocks, Mini and Kelly in particular seemed to be struggling today. This 2 game weekend next weekend will be tough, personally I'd be tempted to go all out for the Leigh game and don't even take the players with knocks to France and keep them fresh for the cup game.

Are they like the scum fans fighting amongst themselves in Newcastle this afternoon?

Is it only me that wonders where the Dressing room lock in is ? This is worse than Widnes away and on the back of the 50+ point drubbings at home !

Show me the Defence and I'll show you the team - I am really concerned.

Thanks goodness SL is poor this year or else we may be much lower down the table.

HOW do we lose 45-0 to a team that could have crumbled at any time

What about - relegation?

We were rubbish. We were rubbish also earlier in the season. We are top four still no matter what after this weekend. We are not going to blackpool. All is well in the world.

Strange old game that one, can't see many predicting anything like that result. Hull had the look of a team the thought they just had to turn up to win and by the time they realised that wasn't the case it was too late.

Thought Roby was immense and ran the show, Tuimavave had a stinker, but to be fair to him he kept trying which is more than can be said for a few of the others. You certainly seemed to miss a leader out there, replacing Ellis will be massive for you.

Will be interesting to see what reaction you get next week after that, see if it was just one of those weeks or if there's bigger things to sort.

On previous 3 occasions, of a 50pt loss, Radford has alluded to the preparation
prior to the game of certain individuals...

Also, Sneyd & Kelly are a knock away,from being out for a lengthy period
according to Radford..

Last season, we had the mental tenacity to launch a comeback, when losing,
this year, when behind,we just capitulate..

We've been here before, lets see how the players react against Leigh...

Cold light of day, your lot had a bad game. Too many off the pace and missing the leadership that Ellis brings. Last season you had a lot less injuries to contend with and we all saw what you were capable of. The inevitable switching and changing that injuries bring does seriously affect defence as we found out to our cost last year. Regarding Kelly, can't stand the bloke but he will likely go on and win the next game practically single handed. That is what you get from him.

We were utter rubbish from start to finish. A real lack of energy and effort right across the park. Everyone knew what they'd get from saints after last week and in front of a new coach and we completely failed to do anything about it.

Let's be honest, other than against cas and probably wire, we've been pretty woeful in the league all season, scraping through games mainly because kelly has shown individual pieces of brilliance (without him we'd be around the same points as wire, saints and les cats IMO). I'm hopeful that this is just an indication that we're planning to ramp up at the end of the season but I don't really hold out much hope of that. We lack leadership and have a soft underbelly and once a couple of things go against us our heads go down and it's game over.

As for the defence, it's shockingly bad, 449 missed tackles so far this season compared to warrington with the lowest number of 263. Defence is about attitude so you have to question what 's going on

Goal 1 is to avoid relegation.