Nest of weasels, this messageboard malarkey. Trust no one.

It was , and still is

Did you watch the final?

'Compete' is not a word I would use.

As a matter of interest just about every bookie on oddschecker.com has us down to finish 8th this season. I'm surprised given the squad we have assembled but it goes to show how tight the middle of the competition is.

On the same site Wigan are overwhelming favourites to finish top. I don't bet but to quote 'Stevo' I'd put my mortgage on Leeds. I can't see any other winner.

I think I saw one that had us joint 7th with Cas, probably about right without the overlay of local optimism. We're stronger but so are the likes of Wire and Catalans.

I tend to agree about Leeds, and would prefer to see them on top than Wigan.

Although they have recruited well they have lost quality though in whitehead, Taia, Dureau, Lima, Oldfield and Henderson. Unless they improve their away form they won't do much better. Great time for us to play them away also.

Wasn't 71-0 also some kind of record?

Bad result that, although wasn't they in 2005, a few weeks after winning the challenge cup ( something that only a few teams have done in the SL era), maybe too much celebrating.

Your club would love to get beat in a play off by that much (if you could manage to finish in the top 8 ) if it meant a challenge cup win.

25 or 624 was a record by Chicago (1970) your not thinking of that one are you??

Probably so. Tend to think that they'll be the ones to watch every year, partly wishful thinking. I guess 7th/8th with the bookies is reasonable though as the team's above us haven't stepped back in terms of personnel.