Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:16 pm
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Keep voting Tory and rip off Britain will continue. As for UKIPers any policy that is not racist would be interesting, but as they are a one trick pony I ain't waiting in anticipation.
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Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:21 pm
JerryChicken
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I still shake my head and wonder how the hell we ever got to a position where people were ready, willing and able to pay £41 each (and more) to watch a comedian.
My father was a huge supporter of the CIU and in his role as amateur singer and comedian went out of his way most weekends to watch the country's top comedians perform in a club somewhere in this, and other cities - if he ever had to pay a cover charge on the door then he'd walk away stating that his £5 a year CIU card covered all of that mullarky, he NEVER paid a cover charge, he would have apoplexy having to pay a £41 (and the rest) cover charge to watch a comedian.
Mind, none of the comedians he ever saw were millionaires, most were full time professional though.
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Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:12 pm
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JerryChicken wrote:Mind, none of the comedians he ever saw were millionaires, most were full time professional though.
To be fair, although many may be millionaires, describing them as comedians would probably breach trades descriptions
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Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:03 am
Ferocious Aardvark
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King Street Cat wrote:Wouldn't be hard considering the majority of buying and selling is done online. Could a resale limit be set that only allows resale at retail price plus reasonable seller expenses?
Absolutely not, with the single exception of stuff where there is some sort of public interest justification (public order at designated football games, alcohol minimum pricing, and suchlike) the government can't and won't interfere with a free market. It is entirely up to the vendors to self-regulate and could quite easily (but at significant cost) do, but never will. They also mostly have contractual terms that tickets can't be resold but for the most part have zero interest in the bother of enforcing this.
There was the famous instance of Viagogo and the RFU but I don't think it came to much and certainly had no impact on the vast secondary market for RU tickets
King Street Cat wrote:Wouldn't be hard considering the majority of buying and selling is done online. Could a resale limit be set that only allows resale at retail price plus reasonable seller expenses?
Absolutely not, with the single exception of stuff where there is some sort of public interest justification (public order at designated football games, alcohol minimum pricing, and suchlike) the government can't and won't interfere with a free market. It is entirely up to the vendors to self-regulate and could quite easily (but at significant cost) do, but never will. They also mostly have contractual terms that tickets can't be resold but for the most part have zero interest in the bother of enforcing this.
There was the famous instance of Viagogo and the RFU but I don't think it came to much and certainly had no impact on the vast secondary market for RU tickets
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Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 11:50 am
piemandan
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When I was in the first year of University in Salford, the Spice Girls decided to pop up again to make a few extra quid.
We thought, 'Great! That'll make US a few quid too' .. We queued overnight (around 15 hours), got on morning TV and all sorts and I bought 7 tickets. That was the maximum allowed, each at around £75 for front row floor tickets. I kept two, so I could take my sister for her Birthday and sold the remaining 5, well above face value. I made close to a grand.
I can't actually see a problem with a bit of ticket touting if you put the work in. After that, I did it for a few other big artists like Jay Z and 50 Cent and never had any agro from people buying them off me near the venue. Surely if someone really wants to go to a gig, they'll pay for it?
I understand it's frustrating on the phone lines, but the alternative is to go to the venue early and just wait..
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Obviously, nowadays I'd take a day off work and do it, but I would make sure it would be financially viable for me to do so..
BBC wrote:St Helens, due to move out of their 120-year-old ground at the end of the season, desperately wanted to mark the occasion with a victory in front of a full house.... And Wigan were left celebrating inside the enemy camp for the first time since September 2003.
Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:17 pm
Durham Giant
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Richie wrote:Well Ticketmaster are good at selling tickets, so I'd expect them to try to have some business selling consumer-consumer as well as business-consumer. If it wasn't Ticketmaster it would be someone else running a facilitation website. Would that be OK?
But surely the fact that Ticketmaster run both companies means that when Ticketmaster get the tickets they may sell half to the public and then half to Getmein or to staff who work for one or the other companies.
The opportunity for fraud seems quite high to me.
I have tried getting tickets for various things over the last couple of years and have given up trying to buy online
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Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:45 pm
King Street Cat
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piemandan wrote:When I was in the first year of University in Salford, the Spice Girls decided to pop up again to make a few extra quid.
We thought, 'Great! That'll make US a few quid too' .. We queued overnight (around 15 hours), got on morning TV and all sorts and I bought 7 tickets. That was the maximum allowed, each at around £75 for front row floor tickets. I kept two, so I could take my sister for her Birthday and sold the remaining 5, well above face value. I made close to a grand.
I can't actually see a problem with a bit of ticket touting if you put the work in. After that, I did it for a few other big artists like Jay Z and 50 Cent and never had any agro from people buying them off me near the venue. Surely if someone really wants to go to a gig, they'll pay for it?
I understand it's frustrating on the phone lines, but the alternative is to go to the venue early and just wait..
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Obviously, nowadays I'd take a day off work and do it, but I would make sure it would be financially viable for me to do so..
Ah great. Well done you.
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BBC wrote:St Helens, due to move out of their 120-year-old ground at the end of the season, desperately wanted to mark the occasion with a victory in front of a full house.... And Wigan were left celebrating inside the enemy camp for the first time since September 2003.
Post subject: Re: Event ticket industry needs investigating and regulating
Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:54 pm
King Street Cat
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It's not an event I'm going to lose much sleep over missing. If however I'd worked my rocks off to get tickets for a favourite band and lost out to the touts I'd be turning up to the venue and kicking some heads in! Although it's unlikely to happen with the amount of pre-sale and priority schemes I've signed up for to avoid the disappointment of losing out to fly by night touts.
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