Someone else has been logging in and posting using your ID then.

Give over ... stick to football!
I suppose on reflection, if someone can't be a supporter of the police and still question their procedures then you could be right.

I think you are being quite naïve, there are plenty of people who have a commercial interest in exploiting this situation. Stoking up the flames and then conveniently offering their services as fire fighters. There are plenty of people in this subculture with an ambiguous and amoral view of the sort of violent criminal gangs Duggan at the very least was closely associated with. We have a campaign for “justice” for a dead gangster, the supporters don’t seem to have the same energy for a campaign for the victims of gangsters. In the months to come some of the people (aka community leaders and campaigners) currently wailing about police racism and brutality will be touting for business in the inquires, workshops and community activities they will claim necessary to repair the mistrust they are currently promoting. Of course in suggesting that such cynical, self-perpetuating, reinterpreting of racism and grievance is a commercial activity for some people I am being a shameless racist, which by circular logic proves that funding is required to tackle my racism, so you better not pay any attention to what I’m saying or ask any inconvenient questions or you too will be a racist, and even more money will need to diverted into tackling the racist notion that the perpetuation of grievenance isn’t quite as right-on as the label suggests. In fact I suggest anyone who reads this post, doesn’t.

Who are these 'community leaders' we keep hearing about? I have lived in several places over my adult life and have never been aware of anyone being a 'community leader'.

Gobshites with big voices that think they're important.

There could be a few community leaders on here then.
I'm joking .....

They are normally people from a minority group (usually black or Asian) and are regularly found with a chip on their shoulders.

You started off this thread saying that you'd barely seen any of the details of the case but you were still leaning heavily into the Duggan camp. That's not a "staunch police supporter" and it's absolute BS to claim it now, when you've gone further and further into supporting Duggan.

On the first page I asked you: "How do you suggest the police deal with people they expect to be armed criminals on their way to commit a crime?"

You never answered. Have you got an answer yet?

With caution.