Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:52 pm
Lord God Jose Mourinho
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WIZEB wrote:At least he's not paranoid.
Cod'ead called me The Sin Bin's David Icke. That's a pretty harsh criticism. I can take it. I think it's wrong.
I know he is among many people who I have taken the gloves off before during a debate. I hold my hands up that I have over-stepped the line and hit with a low blow. I don't think he's going to forgive me for that. Nor forget.
He might be right about me being SB's Icke. But he could just be biased against me because he holds a grudge. I'm not in a position to judge.
Do you dare to ask him his unvarnished opinions of you? Will you cry if he tells you just how stupid he thinks you are?
Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:01 pm
WIZEB
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote: Do you dare to ask him his unvarnished opinions of you? Will you cry if he tells you just how stupid he thinks you are?
No, I'd probably laugh if he thinks I'm stupid. See, I'm a bit older, and wiser, and less paranoid than you. I don't really give two fooks what people think about me. you may get there one day. ,
Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:03 pm
WIZEB
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:I offer my opinions. I offer the reasoning of my opinions. If my opinions and reasoning are wrong then it should be easy for other people to quote me and show that I'm wrong.
That, IMO, is not what people do.
Take the Zimmerman trial on the TV thread. It is a subject that disturbs me because of many issues.
Mintball's opinion is that it's an injustice caused by massive US racism. That's Mintball's opinion, and by word she's going to keep that opinion. Doesn't offer any reasons behind that opinion, but hey, it's her opinion and she has a right to it.
I wrote at length about why the details of the case in no way supported what she said.
Mintball disappeared.
That's pretty much how the Sin Bin works.
I'm not surprised about how your characterise me. I've disagreed with you. I have said offensive things to you just as I've said offensive things to many people that employ the "it's my opinion and I don't have to defend it" stance. (I'm not saying you have done that. I don't remember the details of our previous discussions.)
I think calling me Sin Bin's David Icke is massively wrong. But Icke thinks the criticism of him is often wrong too, and he's obviously a nutter. I might be suffering from a similar delusion. But on reading back many of the arguments I've had I don't think so.
I do think that perhaps my participation in forums is pointless. I do enjoy deep debate but it seems my my method of pointing out where I think people are wrong and why is not really wanted.
Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:18 pm
cod'ead
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:Cod'ead called me The Sin Bin's David Icke. That's a pretty harsh criticism. I can take it. I think it's wrong.
I know he is among many people who I have taken the gloves off before during a debate. I hold my hands up that I have over-stepped the line and hit with a low blow. I don't think he's going to forgive me for that. Nor forget.
He might be right about me being SB's Icke. But he could just be biased against me because he holds a grudge. I'm not in a position to judge.
Do you dare to ask him his unvarnished opinions of you? Will you cry if he tells you just how stupid he thinks you are?
I just think you're a barmpot and I honestly can't recollect you giving me anything approaching a bloody nose.
Now, how's about debating the topics in question?
I can count at least three threads you've managed to derail, for what reason? Only you can fathom that one sunshine
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Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:38 pm
Lord God Jose Mourinho
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WIZEB wrote:No, I'd probably laugh if he thinks I'm stupid. See, I'm a bit older, and wiser, and less paranoid than you. I don't really give two fooks what people think about me. you may get there one day. ,
His opinion of me, that I'm The Sin Bin's David Icke, doesn't bother me. Because I believe it to be wrong.
If his opinion of me is right, and I'm a loon with retarded opinions, that will massively affect my own opinion of myself. It would suck to go through that, but I'd do it. I'd prefer to know that I'm wrong and held retarded opinions than going through my life thinking I was right when I wasn't.
Now, if you're a troll playing the part of moron. Obviously calling you stupid won't help. You'll laugh because you've got a stupid bite. Whatever gets you through the day.
If you're just a self deluded stupid person then you'll just laugh at the silly man calling you stupid. You won't even let yourself think that you're stupid.
But what if his assessment of you being stupid is correct? What if you score 4/10 on an intelligence rating when you've always believed you're an 8 or 9? That won't bother you?
Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:50 pm
WIZEB
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:His opinion of me, that I'm The Sin Bin's David Icke, doesn't bother me. Because I believe it to be wrong.
If his opinion of me is right, and I'm a loon with retarded opinions, that will massively affect my own opinion of myself. It would suck to go through that, but I'd do it. I'd prefer to know that I'm wrong and held retarded opinions than going through my life thinking I was right when I wasn't.
Now, if you're a troll playing the part of moron. Obviously calling you stupid won't help. You'll laugh because you've got a stupid bite. Whatever gets you through the day.
If you're just a self deluded stupid person then you'll just laugh at the silly man calling you stupid. You won't even let yourself think that you're stupid.
But what if his assessment of you being stupid is correct? What if you score 4/10 on an intelligence rating when you've always believed you're an 8 or 9? That won't bother you?
You seem slightly obsessed with yourself young man, and appear to be, becoming, rather tiresome. You mentioned earlier that you thought you are perhaps slightly deluded, I'm beginning to think you aren't as stupid as I thought. Get a decent night sleep, you'll be ok in the morning (or not). Nite-nite.
*You're definitely a barmpot.
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Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:50 pm
Lord God Jose Mourinho
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cod'ead wrote:I just think you're a barmpot and I honestly can't recollect you giving me anything approaching a bloody nose.
Now, how's about debating the topics in question?
I can count at least three threads you've managed to derail, for what reason? Only you can fathom that one sunshine
Has anybody ever lost a debate on a forum in their own mind?
The usual tactic when someone has been "owned" is to disappear. Have you ever read someone say, "You're right, you've changed my mind on that." on this or any forum?
I don't think I've EVER seen it. The closest I've even come to it was when Jerry Chicken said that I'd changed his mind over the Zimmerman trial. But Jerry wasn't part of that discussion, and nobody in the thread weighed in with anything. There was me saying one thing (at very long length), Mintball saying her thing. And then it died.
Derailing a thread. I didn't realise that the Sin Bin threads had to stay on their tracks. It's a general discussion forum. Discussions lead where they lead.
Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:07 pm
Lord God Jose Mourinho
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WIZEB wrote:You seem slightly obsessed with yourself young man,
I've seen many people who have a massively higher opinion of themselves than everyone else has. I've seen people who act very wrong yet seem to think they were in the right.
Having seen that, I think it's a sensible question whether I am guilty of that too.
From your posts, I don't get the impression you have ever thought similar thoughts.
Quote:and appear to be, becoming, rather tiresome.
I think you took my comment that Mike Ashley didn't need, nor deserve your applause personally. I think we've been tussling since then because of that simple fact.
You won't admit that Ashley doesn't deserve applause on top of his payout. So it descends to this. It is very tiresome.
Just looked up and seen this isn't that thread. Without checking I think that if we both go back and see where we started talking in this thread, it will be because you had a dig.
Quote:You mentioned earlier that you thought you are perhaps slightly deluded, I'm beginning to think you aren't as stupid as I thought.
You might not be as stupid as your posts appear. I think that's because you probably put such little effort into them. But when you do put so little effort into them, why bother in the first place?
Hardly news but confirmation of what we already knew.
And if he is not advising the government (see last para), then what is he doing in his role as advisor and why won't Cameron answer straightforward questions as to his role as "advisor" ?
Hardly news but confirmation of what we already knew.
And if he is not advising the government (see last para), then what is he doing in his role as advisor and why won't Cameron answer straightforward questions as to his role as "advisor" ?
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Post subject: Re: Privatisation of NHS hospitals begins
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:43 am
El Barbudo
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Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:Has anybody ever lost a debate on a forum in their own mind?
The usual tactic when someone has been "owned" is to disappear. Have you ever read someone say, "You're right, you've changed my mind on that." on this or any forum?
I don't think I've EVER seen it...
On this very thread, last Friday, I admitted I was wrong about Blood donations and Bain Capital, does that count? One of the reasons for debate is to test one's argument and facts.
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