Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 9:17 am
Sal Paradise
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 18060 Location: On the road
JerryChicken wrote:This is where my "Rule of Life #20" comes into play - Don't feed the lawyers.
Seriously, just walk away, shoite happens, so you won a TV show where you were promised one years employment at £100,000 but you had to do nothing at all for the money except file some letters - have a look at the queue at the door as you leave the building, all of those people are waiting for your £100k filing job you silly b1tch.
Having earned £82,000 at an investment bank before she went on the telly it shoudln't be too hard for her to climb back on the horse and think of her easy 12 months at Mr Sugar's TV Production Company's expense.
In this case I would agree but there are numerous other people in a position where an unfair dismissal tribunal will prevent them moving on. For it to drag on two years is bonkers
Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.
Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:45 am
rover49
Player Coach
Joined: Mar 05 2007 Posts: 13190 Location: Hedon (sometimes), sometimes Premier Inn's
Having only watched a couple of these programmes, my question is 'would you employ ANY of these chancers in your company'. They all seem to be ego maniacs with very little REAL talent and are just seeking there 15 minutes.
'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:14 am
Keith
International Board Member
Joined: Oct 02 2002 Posts: 1552
rover49 wrote:Having only watched a couple of these programmes, my question is 'would you employ ANY of these chancers in your company'. They all seem to be ego maniacs with very little REAL talent and are just seeking there 15 minutes.
Sadly HR departments seem to have adopted this model for their graduate recruitment programmes with the result that they end up with a bunch of new recruits whose sole ambition is to get noticed and rise to the top without ever getting their hands dirty. They seem to have forgotten that they still need someone to crunch numbers and analyse data.
Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:47 am
EHW
Club Owner
Joined: Nov 02 2003 Posts: 8627
I don't understand why she accepted the job in the first place, without knowing what her duties and responsibilities would be. Why did she even enter the interview process without knowing what she would be doing should she be successful and get the job?
Presumably when Lord Sugar said "your hired" she said "to do what exactly?" before accepting.
Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:23 pm
Ferocious Aardvark
International Chairman
Joined: Feb 17 2002 Posts: 28357 Location: MACS0647-JD
EHW wrote:I don't understand why she accepted the job in the first place, without knowing what her duties and responsibilities would be. Why did she even enter the interview process without knowing what she would be doing should she be successful and get the job?
Presumably when Lord Sugar said "your hired" she said "to do what exactly?" before accepting.
Well, it wasn't exactly like that, it was like a competition thingy on the telly, and she won.
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Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:54 pm
Big Graeme
In The Arms of 13 Angels
Joined: Mar 08 2002 Posts: 26578 Location: On the set of NEDS...
Sal Paradise wrote:In this case I would agree but there are numerous other people in a position where an unfair dismissal tribunal will prevent them moving on. For it to drag on two years is bonkers
Its only around 11 months from the time she ended her employment.
Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:59 pm
Big Graeme
In The Arms of 13 Angels
Joined: Mar 08 2002 Posts: 26578 Location: On the set of NEDS...
EHW wrote:I don't understand why she accepted the job in the first place, without knowing what her duties and responsibilities would be.
I can think of 100,000 of them.
EHW wrote:Why did she even enter the interview process without knowing what she would be doing should she be successful and get the job?
Presumably when Lord Sugar said "your hired" she said "to do what exactly?" before accepting.
To make a difference at Viglen, all the candidates knew where the job would be before they got to the final stages (the TV shows) Bordan's quote of "doesn't do very much" sums up the claimant very well.
Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:37 pm
El Barbudo
In The Arms of 13 Angels
Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 14522 Location: Online
rover49 wrote:Having only watched a couple of these programmes, my question is 'would you employ ANY of these chancers in your company'. They all seem to be ego maniacs with very little REAL talent and are just seeking there 15 minutes.
Nail on the head there.
I too, usually have better things to do than to watch this tedious parade of puffed-up blame-mongers. There was one straightforward contestant some years back who could manage people, actually got stuff done and could sell. She didn't win.
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Post subject: Re: "You're constructively fired"! - Apprentice winner
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:28 pm
Dally
International Chairman
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 14845
JerryChicken wrote:This is where my "Rule of Life #20" comes into play - Don't feed the lawyers.
Seriously, just walk away, shoite happens, so you won a TV show where you were promised one years employment at £100,000 but you had to do nothing at all for the money except file some letters - have a look at the queue at the door as you leave the building, all of those people are waiting for your £100k filing job you silly b1tch.
Having earned £82,000 at an investment bank before she went on the telly it shoudln't be too hard for her to climb back on the horse and think of her easy 12 months at Mr Sugar's TV Production Company's expense.
I guess Lord Sugar may be right when he says she seems interested in a career in the media and is hankering publicity? No one in the right mind would have given up a reasonably well paid job in an investment bank for a £100,000 game show prize. By taking this sort of action she will be unemployable in the "real world" so she has probably consigned herself to the media, self-employment, entrepreneurship or...... politics!
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