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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:16 pm 
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samwire wrote:HOUSE!

ffs. people in 'wanting free stuff shocker'.


Come back when your mummy has potty trained you.






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Ajw71 wrote:Apart from 0.9% last quarter



A fairer welfare system







Now you ARE having a laugh, fair for who exactly?? The two working parent families earning just shy of 100k keeping child benefit or the lone parent earning 50k? (I'm not talking about the fairness of the amount, just the logic)

Fairness that cancer patients are having to go and look for work??

Fairness that as from April if you have a "spare bedroom" and claim housing benefit, for every "spare" room your benefit will be reduced???

Fairness that after 20 years and paying 20% tax on one job and 25% on the other two simultanous jobs I qualify for nought because my husband earns more than 7.5k a year????

Yeah, this government are really being "fair"






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samwire wrote:you've clearly been asleep for the past 30 years if you think this is a new thing.


I didn't say that it was, you little cretin.

I have consistently argued that Cameron is the son of Blair is the son of Thatcher.

Do try to make an effort to keep up.






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Mintball wrote:Come back when your mummy has potty trained you.


oh bless, sweetheart. is that it? go on, have another rant about something if it makes you feel better. tell us about this mass army of loft insulators that will save the country.






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Mintball wrote:I didn't say that it was, you little cretin.

I have consistently argued that Cameron is the son of Blair is the son of Thatcher.

Do try to make an effort to keep up.


to keep up with you i could easily afford to lose a leg. and develop asthma.

cretin? that's so sweet.






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Hull White Star wrote:Now you ARE having a laugh, fair for who exactly?? The two working parent families earning just shy of 100k keeping child benefit or the lone parent earning 50k? (I'm not talking about the fairness of the amount, just the logic)
a line has to be drawn somewhere if you want the 'rich' to start paying more/losing more.
Quote:Fairness that cancer patients are having to go and look for work??
good lord. is cancer now a death sentence that makes it impossible to work? my ex boss had it all wrong, working almost to the end, when she should have been at home/hospital simply waiting to die.
Quote:Fairness that as from April if you have a "spare bedroom" and claim housing benefit, for every "spare" room your benefit will be reduced???
absolutely it's fair.
Quote:Fairness that after 20 years and paying 20% tax on one job and 25% on the other two simultanous jobs I qualify for nought because my husband earns more than 7.5k a year????
you do know that the taxes you pay don't sit in your own special account somewhere, waiting for you when you're a bit strapped. pensions have to be paid, wars have to be funded, bins need emptying, the terminally bone idle need cigarettes, etc etc. there'll be a bit set aside for you. but not much.
Quote:Yeah, this government are really being "fair"
they're being as fair as previous governments. i mean the 10p tax removal that screwed the very poorest in society, shameful. and shame on labour voters who are now moaning about similar coalition policies.






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samwire wrote:good lord. is cancer now a death sentence that makes it impossible to work? my ex boss had it all wrong, working almost to the end, when she should have been at home/hospital simply waiting to die.

There's a big difference between being long term unemployed and being the boss in a job. I've had two uncles gone through cancer and it's the one with the most money who has been able to move forward with his life since treatment.

Quote:the terminally bone idle need cigarettes

What made these people terminally bone idle?

Are some people just born lazy?






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samwire wrote:a line has to be drawn somewhere if you want the 'rich' to start paying more/losing more.
You've completely missed the point. Under the system implemented yesterday the richer pay less, the poorer pay moore.
samwire wrote:good lord. is cancer now a death sentence that makes it impossible to work?

In most cases yes. If I was diagnosed with cancer, getting a job would be furthest from my mind, with beating the disgusting illness top priority.
samwire wrote:you do know that the taxes you pay don't sit in your own special account somewhere, waiting for you when you're a bit strapped. pensions have to be paid, wars have to be funded, bins need emptying, the terminally bone idle need cigarettes, etc etc. there'll be a bit set aside for you. but not much.

Again, missed the point. I've worked hard all my life. I worked 3 jobs, paying my fair share of tax yet when it comes to being fair, you think the threshold of 7.5k is ok??? My husband is more than happy to provide for me, but at what expense? We lose our home?????
samwire wrote:they're being as fair as previous governments. i mean the 10p tax removal that screwed the very poorest in society, shameful. and shame on labour voters who are now moaning about similar coalition policies.

Not that same at all and you know it. Screwing the poorest in society is making them pay tax because they have a spare bedroom, forcing someone with terminal cancer (if they have more than 6 months to live) to seek work or lose ESA, forcing someone on JSA to work programmes for tax evading companies for a paltry £71 a week.






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