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 Post subject: Re: Kate Middleton
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:18 pm 
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Mintball wrote:Well, a child won't have that option.

And I would also say that being in "the public eye" does not mean you should have to face intrusion.

Write a book – lose all privacy?

Make a film – lose all privacy?

It shouldn't be seen as a logical process that simply being in the public eye means a loss of privacy.

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 Post subject: Re: Kate Middleton
PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:27 pm 
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Mintball wrote:Well, a child won't have that option.


It won't initially, no. But then, no child has any real say in the lifestyle choice of its parents.

Mintball wrote:And I would also say that being in "the public eye" does not mean you should have to face intrusion.

Write a book – lose all privacy?

Make a film – lose all privacy?

It shouldn't be seen as a logical process that simply being in the public eye means a loss of privacy.


I'm not saying that everyone in the public eye should have to face intrusion, but it is a bit of an occupational hazard of living in opulence at the taxpayers' expense. The royal family differ from the other people you mention in that all they do is 'be royal'. Apart from Charles, who makes expensive biscuits. And with the royals in particular, the morbid fascination with their every move from certain sections of society is probably the only thing that enables them to retain their royal status. If no one cared what they got up to, they'd soon stop caring whether they existed at all. Like I have.

I also think it's quite possible for the other people you mention to avoid intrusion, if they are happy to keep a low profile. I don't think I've ever seen a long-lensed photo of JK Rowling's tits, for example. Often (though not always, I accept), those who complain of intrusion are the very same people who court the tabloids when it suits them. If you play in the dirt, you get dirty, as they say.






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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:35 pm 
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So to some up yesterday's news:

1) hospitals are full to near overflowing
2) Pregnant rich woman admitted to hospital – because she has morning sickness.

hmmm






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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:58 pm 
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tb wrote:So to some up yesterday's news:

1) hospitals are full to near overflowing
2) Pregnant rich woman admitted to hospital – because she has morning sickness.

hmmm

TBF it is not a simple case of morning sickness though is it, hyperemesis gravidarum can lead to many serious problems with the main concern being dehydration which can kill if not treated usually with an IV drip, the condition does not discriminate between rich or poor women.






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tb wrote:So to some up yesterday's news:

1) hospitals are full to near overflowing
2) Pregnant rich woman admitted to hospital – because she has morning sickness.

hmmm


Number one is more important to me than number two.






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tb wrote:So to some up yesterday's news:

1) hospitals are full to near overflowing
2) Pregnant rich woman admitted to hospital – because she has morning sickness.

hmmm


It's what happens when you can afford to pay for your own healthcare, mind the condition is not as simple as morning sickness and does hospitalise quite a few women.






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tb wrote:So to some up yesterday's news:

1) hospitals are full to near overflowing
2) Pregnant rich woman admitted to hospital – because she has morning sickness.

hmmm


1) Apparently the country can't afford it (D. Cameron)
2) As long as they are allowed to bypass the NHS, they won't be bothered about the NHS.






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Rock God X wrote:I'm not saying that everyone in the public eye should have to face intrusion, but it is a bit of an occupational hazard of living in opulence at the taxpayers' expense.

As you know, I'm a republican myself. However I think you're displaying a great deal of uncharacteristic naivety if you think that anything William or Kate could do would remove them from the public eye. Full blown abdication would, if anything, increase media intrusion.

If we ceased to be a Monarchy tomorrow the press and media would still be full of the goings-on of the ex-Royals.






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Slight thread drift, but the redtops this morning were going with "Kate's ok", "Kate's doing fine", "Kate will be on a drip for weeks".

Have they learned nothing over the past year? Is freedom of the press freedom to make any old poop up?






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Bet Lynch wrote:TBF it is not a simple case of morning sickness though is it, hyperemesis gravidarum can lead to many serious problems with the main concern being dehydration which can kill if not treated usually with an IV drip, the condition does not discriminate between rich or poor women.


Absolutely.

As noted earlier, I wish her etc all the best – or at least, I certainly do not wish the family harm.

But, oh dear – how many months of this are we in for? And that can't be brilliant for her (them) either.

Chris28 wrote:... Have they [redtops] learned nothing over the past year? Is freedom of the press freedom to make any old poop up?


No. And some of the broadsheets are not far behind. But that's whay they don't want Leveson implemented.






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