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ROBINSON wrote:No need to get personal.
So basically, because he made a speech when he was 17, that directly effects what he said yesterday?
Very strange.
yeah,it's called hypocrisy
a bit like when the mighty Mr Kinnock a one time staunch anti European and dedicated Euro sceptic decided to feather his nest with the cosy (and well paid) EU Commissioners job - to make it worse he even got his missus a cosy little number in Brussels to boot !
a bit like when the mighty Mr Kinnock a one time staunch anti European and dedicated Euro sceptic decided to feather his nest with the cosy (and well paid) EU Commissioners job - to make it worse he even got his missus a cosy little number in Brussels to boot !
they are all the bloody same !
can we add Lord Prescott into that, he wants to get even further into the trough and be Comissioner of Humberside Police (or whatever the role is going to be called)
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Standee wrote:can we add Lord Prescott into that, he wants to get even further into the trough and be Comissioner of Humberside Police (or whatever the role is going to be called)
wish he would sod off back to the Merchant Navy ....
they are all the same mate - bunch of self centered barstewards
it's even worse in france especially within the masonic lodges - even the uk equivalents won't touch them due to the corruption & nepotism etc - it makes me sick...
a bit like when the mighty Mr Kinnock a one time staunch anti European and dedicated Euro sceptic decided to feather his nest with the cosy (and well paid) EU Commissioners job - to make it worse he even got his missus a cosy little number in Brussels to boot !
they are all the bloody same !
Not when he was leader of the Labour party he wasn't, he was calling for us to be in the ERM in the mid 1980s well before the Tories took us in.
That didn't stop Blair then saying the Tories had lost their economic credibility because of what happened to the ERM...
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So, according to Standee & sanjunien:
If you're poor and socialist, you're jealous
If you're rich and socialist, you're a hypocrite
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sally cinnamon wrote:Not when he was leader of the Labour party he wasn't, he was calling for us to be in the ERM in the mid 1980s well before the Tories took us in.
That didn't stop Blair then saying the Tories had lost their economic credibility because of what happened to the ERM...
when Ted Heath took us in the EEC in the early 70s (remember, WE voted for it democratically) Mr Kinnock was seen in the same light as Red Ken, Scargill, Red Robbo, Peter Shore and the like = extreme euro sceptics
Kinnock realised that it would be economic suicide to pull out of europe and so had to jump on the bandwagon, upsetting many of his contempories within the loony left/labour Party at the time - he had no choice but to accept the ERM in 1990 many years after his anti european stance
and correct, the Tores had lost their credibilty especially when senior Tories like the C of the Ex, Norman Lamont wasn't in favour...the crash was inevitable and it cost me a fookin' fortune !
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cod'ead wrote:So, according to Standee & sanjunien:
If you're poor and socialist, you're jealous
If you're rich and socialist, you're a hypocrite
we are all capable of hypocrisy no matter what or who we are - it's human nature
we all have the seven deadly sins within us and can display them at any time, I can manage them all in the same day sometimes...
i'm not rich and socialist (ish) but very envious of anyone who has something better than me - I can't help it, it's in my nature and just like everyone else if they were honest enough to admit it
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took us in the EEC in the early 70s (remember, WE voted for it democratically) Mr Kinnock was seen in the same light as Red Ken, Scargill, Red Robbo, Peter Shore and the like = extreme euro sceptics
