Joined: Oct 19 2003 Posts: 17898 Location: Packed like sardines, in a tin
I guess they've taken the page down as it wouldn't open for me either.
I agree that fans of any club don't have the right to act like drunken louts (and experienced it last year too) but it won't just be FC fans, unfortunately.
Being mischievous, it was the French fans put with the FC fans too
Joined: Aug 30 2005 Posts: 3231 Location: in a cave
sanjunien wrote:yes,I was in with the FC fans and the vast majority were Edit-AS as newts,verbally abusive,not respectful of the Catalan anthem and generally a pain in the derriere - they were appalling after the game spewing up and having a jimmy behind the said stand and were most unpleasant - please stay away you yobs ! The club had the west stand out of action due to the building renovations etc so rather than turn the FC fans away, put them with the Catalan fans who were well behaved as usual. I went as a neutral with my missus to simply enjoy a game of RL and ended up being embarassed to hold a UK passport - the bad language was ok as the locals didn't understand what was being said.The FC fans with their kids must have been ashamed to be associated with such scumbags...
The RFL didn't 'kick any butts' but hopefully apologised for the behaviour of some of the FC fans We went into town later and had a great time with the 'normal' RL fans from FC & Catalans who had a good craic together.
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The vast majority of FC fans? I don't think so! Maybe they were Edit-AS off at not being allowed to go into the seats printed on their tickets and being herded into an already overcowded temporary stand when their were hundreds of empty seats in the stand opposite. There was an RFL investigation. I know because I was interviewed by the investigator and gave him photos of the dangerous overcrowding. No mention was made of any problem with the behaviour of the Hull fans in the final report. The problem was rank incompetence on the part of the Catalans club.
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Joined: Mar 28 2010 Posts: 5506 Location: Albi, France
Diogenes wrote:The vast majority of FC fans? I don't think so! Maybe they were Edit-AS off at not being allowed to go into the seats printed on their tickets and being herded into an already overcowded temporary stand when their were hundreds of empty seats in the stand opposite. There was an RFL investigation. I know because I was interviewed by the investigator and gave him photos of the dangerous overcrowding. No mention was made of any problem with the behaviour of the Hull fans in the final report. The problem was rank incompetence on the part of the Catalans club.
100% agree mate - as I said,typical french organisation
but,it doesn't mean you have to throw your toys out of the pram cos' you were hard done by ? fact is most of the FC fans in that stand (me and the missus were in that stand) were pretty abusive and well watered - the verbal abuse as well as the non respect of the Catalan anthem (bet you've forgotten about that too ?) was offensive to the french fans (including kids) in that overcrowded stand as well as the adjoining mainstand - the behaviour was unacceptable even considering the amount of alcohol consumed
Hull KR came down last weekend and were angelic in comparison just like every other SL team visiting Perpignan - it just seems to be some of the FC lot who can't control themselves
What worried me last weekend wasn't the stewards or indeed the behaviour of any fans from either side but the new stand itself. I really don't think it would get a safety certificate in this country. The steps are too high especially for a number of more mature members of our party who the more able of us had to physically help climb them. Not only are they very high but very steep and no hand rails to help. The seats themselves are a worry of course too. If someone was to trip and fall there is nothing to stop them going from the top to the bottom and I believe someone could be badly hurt. That for me is a bigger worry.
Joined: Mar 28 2010 Posts: 5506 Location: Albi, France
interchange wrote:What worried me last weekend wasn't the stewards or indeed the behaviour of any fans from either side but the new stand itself. I really don't think it would get a safety certificate in this country. The steps are too high especially for a number of more mature members of our party who the more able of us had to physically help climb them. Not only are they very high but very steep and no hand rails to help. The seats themselves are a worry of course too. If someone was to trip and fall there is nothing to stop them going from the top to the bottom and I believe someone could be badly hurt. That for me is a bigger worry.
couldn't agree more - it's very steep and not practical for people like my good lady who is handicapped and unable to easily get up the steps - I don't feel we found it dangerous,just a bit intimidating.The whole stadium is not user friendly IMO especially for people with limited mobility ie. wheelchairs have to be carried up to the stands by stewards as there are no ramps etc
Montpellier where Catalans played Wigan last season is just as bad but at least there is a lift for fans to use to get to the different levels in the main stand at least - unfortunately the lift was out of order !!!!
typical french debacle ! somethings they do well and others they are completely clueless!
it would be interesting to know whether the stand would pass safety regs in the UK ?
Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
Erm, if the stewards have to carry the wheelchairs up into the stands, how do the wheelchair users get up?
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Joined: Jan 15 2007 Posts: 11924 Location: Secret Hill Top Lair. V.2
They carry the person in the chair up the stairs?
That is ridiculous, how would they get them out if there was a fire?
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Joined: Mar 28 2010 Posts: 5506 Location: Albi, France
Sandra The Terrorist wrote:They carry the person in the chair up the stairs?
That is ridiculous, how would they get them out if there was a fire?
if the person with limited mobility can't walk what else is there to do ? usually it takes two or three stewards to carry a wheelchair,not exactly rocket science - these people would be down the stairs long before the people in the seats at the top would be.
in the event of a fire ? well, you tell me - the wheelchairs are close to the exits so it wouldn't be major problem I wouldn't have thought,we're only talking of about ten steps
but I agree it is a crazy situation - how have the latest stadia ie Langtree Park & DW etc arranged it for people in wheelchairs ? Do they still have to sit at ground level as in the old days ?
Joined: Mar 10 2011 Posts: 1508 Location: Bumblescum, AL
sanjunien wrote:if the person with limited mobility can't walk what else is there to do ? usually it takes two or three stewards to carry a wheelchair,not exactly rocket science - these people would be down the stairs long before the people in the seats at the top would be.
in the event of a fire ? well, you tell me - the wheelchairs are close to the exits so it wouldn't be major problem I wouldn't have thought,we're only talking of about ten steps
but I agree it is a crazy situation - how have the latest stadia ie Langtree Park & DW etc arranged it for people in wheelchairs ? Do they still have to sit at ground level as in the old days ?
Nowadays, just about all biggish 'all-seater' stadia, have a disabled section midway into the stand - usually the same level as the concourses. Langtree from pics certainly have pitch side sections, but I'd imagine they too will have elevated disabled sections. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm sure I've heard/read that for every new stand/extension etc they have to meet disability requirements. At CP we have a pitch side hut sorta' thing – hopefully short term.
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