Ah balls to it. Lets merge, call ourselves Hull Kingston FC and defeat all in superleague. With a 20 year waiting list for season tickets and sky wanting to show our every game we then are invited to join the nrl. Such is our pulling power virgin atlantic lay on 20 planes every 2 weeks to ferry 6000 rabid fans to reek havoc on the aussie public. The world club challange is binned because the only team that can beat us is ....... us!
blakeysrobin wrote:Ah balls to it. Lets merge, call ourselves Hull Kingston FC and defeat all in superleague. With a 20 year waiting list for season tickets and sky wanting to show our every game we then are invited to join the nrl. Such is our pulling power virgin atlantic lay on 20 planes every 2 weeks to ferry 6000 rabid fans to reek havoc on the aussie public. The world club challange is binned because the only team that can beat us is ....... us!
Seventies Red is totally correct. Craven Park is towards the Eastern extremes of the city. Whether you like it or not its asking more for Rovers supporters in West Hull to travel there. The geography is self limiting. My Kids go to Hessle High and I was amazed to hear of the amount of young reds there. Ok they are outnumbered but they are there. A more central location has got to be more attractive, it will encourage supporters from other areas of the City to go and watch KR. not that I want them too, but it will happen. Your heartland is East Hull yes, but you have support in other areas that could be nurtured. To say Pride of East Hull is itself inward looking, and perhaps a tad isolationist. Hull FC is traditionally west Hull, But these days our support is from all quarters of the City, our heartland is west but I believe we can say we are the pride of Hull because, because our support is certainly not just from West Hull, and we benefit from that. Support is not just for today, its for the tomorrow too. our Histories are intertwined East and West but over the last couple of generations of population shift since the 60s, FC have embraced the whole of the City. if we had looked inwards, if we for instance labelled ourselves the pride of just West Hull I think that would have been to the detriment of the club. A move to a central location will benefit any club longer term. look at the bigger picture.
Seventies red wrote:Your average gates during the early eighties were around the 11,000 mark, in fact i was only looking at an old Hull fc programme recently, (old programmes something i used to collect once upon a time) it was Hull fc versus Widnes 1984 and the crowd was just under 11,000 that day with widnes been a top side then and bringing a decent contingent over with them, as far as i can remember back in those days, it was usualy Hull getting beween 10 and 11000 on average at their peak and rovers getting around 9000 on aaverage at their peak, plus if i remember correctly Hulls crowds just prior to their departure from the old Boulevard were between 6 and 7 thousand, though im sure someone on these boards will have the exact figures at hand.
82/83 our average was 13000+. It was our highest average until we averaged 14000 a couple of years back
Seventies red wrote:Your average gates during the early eighties were around the 11,000 mark, in fact i was only looking at an old Hull fc programme recently, (old programmes something i used to collect once upon a time) it was Hull fc versus Widnes 1984 and the crowd was just under 11,000 that day with widnes been a top side then and bringing a decent contingent over with them, as far as i can remember back in those days, it was usualy Hull getting beween 10 and 11000 on average at their peak and rovers getting around 9000 on aaverage at their peak, plus if i remember correctly Hulls crowds just prior to their departure from the old Boulevard were between 6 and 7 thousand, though im sure someone on these boards will have the exact figures at hand.
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Seventies red wrote:You are obviously not understanding what i said very well are you?. When i said we would get them from the same places you did i did'nt mean litteraly the same supporters, though i thought that was pretty obvious to be honest, i meant from the same places as in the streets and armchairs of the city. As regards the rent, im not sure how that would work, usualy when teams share they do so to lessen the overal rental costs which are usualy shared equaly.
The rent you currently pay amounts to about two ballonns and a goldfish, the rent you would pay at the KC would increase substantially - (we throw around £600k per year into the pot). You'd need a heck of a lot of new supporters to cover the increased rent alone
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cod'ead wrote:The rent you currently pay amounts to about two ballonns and a goldfish, the rent you would pay at the KC would increase substantially - (we throw around £600k per year into the pot). You'd need a heck of a lot of new supporters to cover the increased rent alone
I spent that winning a goldfish at the fair last year!
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cod'ead wrote:The rent you currently pay amounts to about two ballonns and a goldfish, the rent you would pay at the KC would increase substantially - (we throw around £600k per year into the pot). You'd need a heck of a lot of new supporters to cover the increased rent alone
Yeah, but given the same deal as you, we'd only be paying the same rent if we got the same crowds. Mind, Pearson isn't happy with that deal, so hopefully we can both get better.
On current crowds we'd be paying ground rent (less than £200k at the moment), plus approx 2 balloons and a pickled red herring.
To be even be able speculate meaningfully we need more than that Sun article, which says little and gets some of that wrong (re: ownership of the KC, most obviously).
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