Scabbycat wrote:what has this got to do with rugby league... This is The Sin Bin. It is an off-topic forum. It is, therefore, not for threads about Rugby League. You'll find all the RL forums listed here, on the general index. Scabbycat wrote:... Please do not post what everyone already knows, it is in the daily newspapers, and is of no interest to anyone on here. By the way camilla watched Strictly come dancing in a private viewing and gave the contestants all 9. One wonders why you wasted such time and effort in posting, then?

Scabbycat wrote:what has this got to do with rugby league... This is The Sin Bin. It is an off-topic forum. It is, therefore, not for threads about Rugby League. You'll find all the RL forums listed here, on the general index. Scabbycat wrote:... Please do not post what everyone already knows, it is in the daily newspapers, and is of no interest to anyone on here. By the way camilla watched Strictly come dancing in a private viewing and gave the contestants all 9. One wonders why you wasted such time and effort in posting, then?

I certainly agree with you. I like women who have meat on them and not women that look ill.

Another 3 or 4 episodes worth of lazy jokes for Mock The Week and it's ilk.

Must have done the survey in Wigan or Hull.

It is, of course, perfectly possible for a woman to not be 'cuddly' and to not be so skinny that they look ill.

Like Rihanna

Some right fatness around, poor diets and bad habits......its about self discipline. we ALL know whats good and bad for us its making sure its the right balance. and some good phiz too.....

No. It's not that simple.

Many people do not, for instance, understand that calories in v calories out is not the full story; that cutting fat and 'filling up' with complex carbs – as per the diet advice, certainly some years ago – is actually one thing that will make you put on weight. It is no coincidence that distance runners 'carbo load' before a long race. It's also no coincidence that the two countries that use cereals to 'carbo load' at breakfast – the UK and US – are also countries with some of the biggest obesity problems.

Because of the same dismal advice, many people do not know that they need fat for good health – and also that saturated fat will sate far quicker than complex carbs. They have been fed a lie that natural fats – lard, dripping and butter, for instance – are 'bad', while processed poisons like marg and spray-on fats are 'good' (and more expensive, thus producing higher profits).

Our parents and grandparents did not have an obesity epidemic from eating bread and dripping. And the French Paradox, as it known, shows not only that a diet high in natural saturated fats does not cause an obesity epidemic, it also shows that it does not cause record levels of heart disease and early death. But then again, that myth was only based on the lies of Ancel Keyes.

Many people don't realise that not taking proper time to eat – and not in front of a computer or the telly – doesn't help either.

Processed and junk food doesn't help – I read somewhere recently that some of these things are high in MSG (far higher levels than in soy sauce) and that at these sort of levels, MSG effectively switches off the body's ability to feel sated.

So no: we don't "ALL" know what the solutions are.

There are some relevant points in your post, Minty, but there's no escaping the fact that, for the overwhelming majority of people, a balanced diet and regular moderate exercise will result in them maintaining a healthy weight. That we are one of the fattest countries in Europe is not because we eat cereal for breakfast, but because, as a nation, we eat too much and exercise too little.

On the whole, people do know what they need to do to lose weight, it's actually doing it that's the problem. Of course there are exceptions (like in the cases that it actually is 'glandular'), but these are relatively few and far between.

Its also become a recently established myth that all dietary malfunctions can be easily cured by simply joining a gym and turning up a couple of times a week to trot on a treadmill for ten minutes while watching TV, followed by a glass of J2O in the bar (check the calorific value).

Nor is dressing in lycra and strutting around the weights section for half an hour going to help your diet either.