Joined: Mar 11 2007 Posts: 5659 Location: Next to Ramsgate Sands c.1850 in West Hull
Mild Rover wrote:The only 'smash it' I've come across is the one that cost Richard Keys his job. 'Gay' is an obvious example. Evolution doesn't care if it is condoned. The dinosaurs never called cake and custard 'dessert' - but where are they now?
"Gay" is a good one. I think that is acceptable now, but only in addition to the traditional meanings.
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There ain’t no music East side of this city That’s mellow like mine is, That’s mellow like mine.
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WormInHand wrote:Shucks . Did nothing but shout and demand ideas but didn't come up with many good ones myself. My poor little pig, for example. dum-dum was a bit of a hero, though.
Nah - I think although he wasn't in attendance, Sandra left a great deal with us.
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WormInHand wrote:Shucks . Did nothing but shout and demand ideas but didn't come up with many good ones myself. My poor little pig, for example. dum-dum was a bit of a hero, though.
Joined: Mar 11 2007 Posts: 5659 Location: Next to Ramsgate Sands c.1850 in West Hull
Oh! Cockney Rhyming and other slang is always OK! It's when people use substitute words to replace the originals and actually mean them that it goes a bit wrong. It's really just people trying to be pretentious during the 19th and 20th centuries and attempting to "distance" themselves from the lower classes by using their "new, superior" language. Unfortunately for them, the Upper classes never bought into it, were confident enough in themselves to carry on with the traditional lingo and now use the "new" language as the yardstick to measure the distance between them and the upstarts.
So, rather than bringing them closer to the aristocrats, the "new" English merely served to define the new middle class. The upper classes still use language as the main indicator of which class you are. Brilliantly - the working classes, whom the "middles" wanted to leave behind, now share the majority of their vocabulary with the aristos. That's why I'm fiercely protective of my working class words - I despise social climbing and snobbery.
Middle-middles really get on my threepenny bits, and steam up my bins.
Philip Larkin wrote:
There ain’t no music East side of this city That’s mellow like mine is, That’s mellow like mine.
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