FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Other Sports FIFA World Cup 2010



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2262 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 ... 227  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:12 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Mar 07 2007
Posts: 7121
Location: Warrington
Andy Gilder wrote:Part of the issue with English midfielders is that they are judged more on their workrate than their ability.

Do you reckon Spanish fans sit down and watch Xavi then turn to each other and complain about how he's not constantly going from box to box and isn't the quickest over 10 yards?


The thing with Xavi is he's clever enough to make up for his limitations, although he does work better with a Toure or a Senna next to him. He reads the game well defensively, he doesn't get stuck in as much but he closes down well, without looking like a headless chicken.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:27 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain

Joined: Jun 20 2008
Posts: 3813
Robbie Rotten wrote:Was that the game when England played with a fast, tenacious defensive midfield player? Do you see that player in the squad now? Do you see any midfielder of ours who is defensively outstanding? The defensive midfield player is becoming more and more key to sides wanting to win titles. Do you think Spain would have won it without Senna in 2008? Many felt he was one of the players who made the difference for Spain. Italy wouldn't have won it in 2006 without Gattuso, etc. I've heard many say England need to start playing like England and not trying to play like Spain or Argentina, but I don't understand what Capello is trying to achieve with that midfield, it is so pedestrian and the main reason our centre halves look average when in an England strip is because the midfield forever leaves them exposed 1v1.


Senna is not a Gattuso/Mascherano type "tenacious" defesive midfielder. He's a deep-lying midfielder who can read the game and break up play when required and then distribute the ball effectively. In fact, he's exactly the same sort of player as Xabi Alonso, Busquets and Javi Martinez, so Spain, with their system, are hardly missing out in not taking him.

The fact is that Spain don't need a terrier DM because they hardly ever lose the ball. England, on the other hand...

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:07 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Jan 29 2007
Posts: 5695
Location: Wigan, unfortunately.
For me the Golden Boot will be between Messi, Villa and Fabiano. Fabiano has the upper hand as North Korea are in Brazil's group.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:40 pm 
Player Coach
First Team Player

Joined: Oct 13 2009
Posts: 1662
Location: Chester
The North Koreans will run around like idiots and make it hard for the opponents if they are anything like the South Koreans.

Villa could get a hatful against Honduras with the midfield pulling the strings behind him, not to mention possible goals against the Swiss and Chileans.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:59 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Mar 07 2007
Posts: 7121
Location: Warrington
craigizzard wrote:Senna is not a Gattuso/Mascherano type "tenacious" defesive midfielder. He's a deep-lying midfielder who can read the game and break up play when required and then distribute the ball effectively. In fact, he's exactly the same sort of player as Xabi Alonso, Busquets and Javi Martinez, so Spain, with their system, are hardly missing out in not taking him.

The fact is that Spain don't need a terrier DM because they hardly ever lose the ball. England, on the other hand...


Javi Martinez isn't like Alonso. If he's like anybody, he's like a lesser Ballack. A strong, box-to-box player with a good engine. Senna isn't as quick as Mascherano, but he was certainly tenacious. Whenever the opposition went into Spain's half, he was at their heels winning the ball back. For Spain, he didn't play the Alonso type role, for Villarreal he does, though.

Alonso and Buesquets are capable of doing this defensive role, Alonso probably less so because he isn't quick over any distance, but he reads the game well and is a terrific man marker.

England don't really have any kind of defensive midfielder, if it was to be anyone, it would be Barry or Huddlestone. I don't think THudd is quick or mobile enough in a two man midfield, whilst I think Barry is only average at anchoring the midfield, and will be shown to be average by any half decent side.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:26 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: May 08 2007
Posts: 10215
Location: On the "waiting list"...
France
South Africa

Argentina
Greece

England
USA

Germany
SERBIA

Holland
Denmark

Italy
Paraguay

Brazil
Portugal

Spain
Switzerland

All to progress from the group stages: 2649/1. 8)






LOVE UNITED - HATE GLAZER

"DEBT IS THE ROAD TO RUIN" - David Gill, August 2004

Malcolm Glazer - Forever in your DEBT

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:29 pm 
International Board Member
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Apr 19 2002
Posts: 16239
Paddy Evra wrote:All to progress from the group stages: 2649/1. 8)

Where did you get odds on that?

I've been wanting to do a similar one but not been able to on the couple of sites I tried.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:34 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: May 08 2007
Posts: 10215
Location: On the "waiting list"...
Asim wrote:Where did you get odds on that?

I've been wanting to do a similar one but not been able to on the couple of sites I tried.


Paddy Power is the only site I can find that will offer you odds for that.

EDIT: Here's the link.

£50 free bet for new customers too.
Asim wrote:Where did you get odds on that?

I've been wanting to do a similar one but not been able to on the couple of sites I tried.


Paddy Power is the only site I can find that will offer you odds for that.

EDIT: Here's the link.

£50 free bet for new customers too.






LOVE UNITED - HATE GLAZER

"DEBT IS THE ROAD TO RUIN" - David Gill, August 2004

Malcolm Glazer - Forever in your DEBT

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:43 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: May 23 2005
Posts: 31335
Location: Lincoln, Nebraska
LFCRhino wrote::HIGHFIVE: USA.....USA.....USA


I can't wait. I'm going to meet a lot of my girlfriends friends for the first time on Saturday, wearing my Maradonna Argentina shirt, and singing the Yanky national anthem cheering on the good old U S of A.

I may not be alive to post after. :lol:






Image

Krasota, viara i borba

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: FIFA World Cup 2010
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:49 pm 
International Board Member
Club Coach
User avatar

Joined: Apr 19 2002
Posts: 16239
Cheers, I'll sort mine out tomorrow.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2262 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 ... 227  Next





It is currently Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:20 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 86 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:20 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Rumours and signings v9
moto748
28799
3m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Rogues Galle
2964
11m
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
fez1
13
20m
George Williams
Fantastic Mr
13
21m
Remember in 2017
MjM
24
22m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2353
27m
Film game
Boss Hog
3975
40m
sang-et-or Hall Of Fame
Jimmythecuck
47
52m
Whitehaven Away
faxcar
10
59m
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
15s
Staying or Not
batleyrhino
46
18s
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
fez1
13
36s
Recruitment rumours and links
TF and the w
3160
36s
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
38s
2025
jbuzza
63
40s
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
42s
2025 membership/renewals
ComeOnYouUll
29
47s
Must do better
Wires71
29
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40152
1m
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
B0NES
118
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
FIL
5
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
ComeOnYouUll
29
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
fez1
13
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
TODAY
Leigh it is
NickyKiss
22
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
Must do better
Wires71
29
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Break Saints Hearts With Golden Point Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Todays match v Saints
Fantastic Mr
121
TODAY
We are in good hands
God
6
TODAY
Josh Charnley
Vancouver Le
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off Progress In Eliminating Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
superleague plus
karetaker
4
TODAY
New Owners
orangeman
1
TODAY
Josh Rourke
PopTart
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
331
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
444
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
946
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1225
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
997
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1400
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1117
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1383
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1471
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1671
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1457
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1571
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1738
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1550
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2013
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Fri 4th Oct
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Warrington
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan-Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
Sun 22nd Sep
CH 27 Batley28-14Swinton
CH 27 Halifax14-10Bradford
CH 27 Swinton20-22Doncaster
L1 24 Hunslet18-14Midlands
L1 24 Keighley26-22Rochdale
WSL2024 15 LeedsW10-12York V
WSL2024 15 St.HelensW18-4WiganW
Sat 21st Sep
SL 27 Hull FC4-24Catalans
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Warrington 28 761 341 420 42
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Leigh 28 580 404 176 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 27 655 469 186 30
Widnes 26 551 475 76 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Rumours and signings v9
moto748
28799
3m
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
Rogues Galle
2964
11m
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
fez1
13
20m
George Williams
Fantastic Mr
13
21m
Remember in 2017
MjM
24
22m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2353
27m
Film game
Boss Hog
3975
40m
sang-et-or Hall Of Fame
Jimmythecuck
47
52m
Whitehaven Away
faxcar
10
59m
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
15s
Staying or Not
batleyrhino
46
18s
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
fez1
13
36s
Recruitment rumours and links
TF and the w
3160
36s
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
38s
2025
jbuzza
63
40s
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
42s
2025 membership/renewals
ComeOnYouUll
29
47s
Must do better
Wires71
29
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40152
1m
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
B0NES
118
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
Uncle Rico
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
2024 Season Review
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
McNamara interview
Jimmythecuck
1
TODAY
French Elite 1 season 2024/2025 Thread
Jimmythecuck
3
TODAY
5024
FIL
5
TODAY
2025 membership/renewals
ComeOnYouUll
29
TODAY
Hull FC ladies
Hessle Roade
1
TODAY
Kai
Cokey
8
TODAY
Travel to hull krdoes the club run coache
fez1
13
TODAY
Wakefield v Dons - Sunday 29 September 2024
Wanderer
4
TODAY
The play-offs
Ckt2487
11
TODAY
This years play off series
matt_wire
3
TODAY
Leigh it is
NickyKiss
22
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Play Off SF
FoxyRhino
1
TODAY
Must do better
Wires71
29
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Break Saints Hearts With Golden Point Win
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Todays match v Saints
Fantastic Mr
121
TODAY
We are in good hands
God
6
TODAY
Josh Charnley
Vancouver Le
2
TODAY
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off Progress In Eliminating Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
superleague plus
karetaker
4
TODAY
New Owners
orangeman
1
TODAY
Josh Rourke
PopTart
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
331
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
444
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
946
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1225
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
997
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1400
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1117
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1383
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1471
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1671
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1457
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1571
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1738
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1550
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
2013


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.