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SalfordSlim wrote:Aries Sir Ryan, a true Utd legend . Cannot believe some of the cr*p I've heard this morning about him not deserving the award . Can anyone explain why Haye (after 1 meaningful fight), Murray (after another season of near misses) or Button (only won because he had a better car) deserve the award more?
Ok, so Giggsy doesn't play all the time. Name me another 36 year old in world Football that can influence a game as much as he does. Giggs has been at THE biggest club in the world for 20 years and can still justify a place in the team. Footballers very rarely make the shortlist for SPOTY due to the team nature but when you look at the achievements of Giggs (which IMO will never be matched) I fiond it extremely churlish to question it being deserved.
BTW, good shout on Phil Taylor, possibly the most dominant sportsman ever in his chosen field. McCoy..... costs me too much money to be considered I'm afraid
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After you take off the red tinted specs you will probably find that a lot of people are bemused because it is supposed to be sportsman of the year, NOT what he has done for the last 20 years. indeed he has been a great servant to the dirties but i think personally other people deserved it. How many titles has taylor won?
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Chris Charles No1 Fan wrote:After you take off the red tinted specs you will probably find that a lot of people are bemused because it is supposed to be sportsman of the year, NOT what he has done for the last 20 years. indeed he has been a great servant to the dirties but i think personally other people deserved it. How many titles has taylor won?
No it's not - it is Sports Personality Of The Year - but looking at some of the winers over past years you'd be hard put to find their personality
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BartonFlyer wrote:No it's not - it is Sports Personality Of The Year - but looking at some of the winers over past years you'd be hard put to find their personality
From a psychological perspective, it doesn't say whether the winners personality has to be extroverted or indeed introverted. Giggs, like many others, have personalities, just not particularly entertaining or obvious personalities. If you wanted a big, extroverted personality, as I'm sure most would, Philips Idowu would've surely won...
Erm, think I might avoid this forum immediately after having my head in a psychology text book in future.
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Chris Charles No1 Fan wrote: How many titles has taylor won?
Many, but without the risk of serious injury and I'm pretty sure that he's hardly had to endure a mega-strict fitness regime like many other 'sportsmen/women'
As much as I admire Phil Taylor & Co and appreciate their level of skill, let's be honest, darts is a game at any level, not a sport.
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Jim Jalfrezi wrote:As much as I admire Phil Taylor & Co and appreciate their level of skill, let's be honest, darts is a game at any level, not a sport.
All I’ll say is that if golf is a sport, and it is acknowledged as such, then so is darts.
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Jim Jalfrezi wrote:Many, but without the risk of serious injury and I'm pretty sure that he's hardly had to endure a mega-strict fitness regime like many other 'sportsmen/women'
As much as I admire Phil Taylor & Co and appreciate their level of skill, let's be honest, darts is a game at any level, not a sport.
But some of us see football as nothing but a morality draining spectacle and it's participants not worthy of winning such a prestigious award. For me Taylor would deserve it much more than Giggs, Taylor can easily lay claim to being the best darts player in the world if not the best player the world has ever seen.
I personally think Tiger Woods should have won something as he must be the most naturally gifted sportsman in the world, to be as dominant in the world of golf as he has been over the years when he clearly has been practiseing his horizontal gymnastics rather than his golf swing
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Chico wrote:All I’ll say is that if golf is a sport, and it is acknowledged as such, then so is darts.
I completely agree Chico. As much as I absolutely love playing and watching golf, as far as I'm concerned, it too is a game.
Anyway, back on topic, I think Ryan Giggs fully deserved an award such as this. There are plenty of arseholes in pro football, many of them making huge amounts of money for being no better than average. Giggs isn't one of them.
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Jim Jalfrezi wrote: Anyway, back on topic, I think Ryan Giggs fully deserved an award such as this. There are plenty of arseholes in pro football, many of them making huge amounts of money for being no better than average. Giggs isn't one of them.
That is only because fergie the bully wont let him talk to the media unless he wants him too. Regarding taylor, it might not be physical preperation that he does to his game but it sure is mental preperation, something you didnt do when you cost me a fiver in the club when we played darts
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. Cannot believe some of the cr*p I've heard this morning about him not deserving the award 
. Can anyone explain why Haye (after 1 meaningful fight), Murray (after another season of near misses) or Button (only won because he had a better car) deserve the award more?
Well Done Giggsy. A model pro in every way. Fully deserved.
