Joined: Jan 04 2006 Posts: 7069 Location: Green Bay
Buc wrote:One kind of leads to the other with regards to Haynesworth and the secondary, he isnt in there collapsing the pocket thus making it much more difficult for the opposing QB. The Bucs will be fine once they get Freeman in at QB and get Derrick Ward a few more carries. Some teams have decieving records by beating bad teams, the Packers and the Giants for example.
Haynesworth was vastly over-rated as it was.
I disagree about decieving records. The Giants have beaten the teams put infront of them, excpet the Saints, they are hardly in control of the schedule.
As for us, we hardly have a decieving record at 3-2. Frankly i'd have expected us to be 4-1. The Begals are alot better than many expected and Minnesotta away was always a defeat IMO.
It isn't like we have played Tampa, Cleveland, Buffalo, Kansas City, St.Louis and are 5-0. That would be decieving.
ST_CONROY wrote:Haynesworth was vastly over-rated as it was.
I disagree about decieving records. The Giants have beaten the teams put infront of them, excpet the Saints, they are hardly in control of the schedule.
As for us, we hardly have a decieving record at 3-2. Frankly i'd have expected us to be 4-1. The Begals are alot better than many expected and Minnesotta away was always a defeat IMO.
It isn't like we have played Tampa, Cleveland, Buffalo, Kansas City, St.Louis and are 5-0. That would be decieving.
The Packers have beaten a shaky bears team, a bad St Louis team, and an awful Lions team, the 2 decent teams they have played they have lost against.
Joined: Jan 04 2006 Posts: 7069 Location: Green Bay
Buc wrote:The Packers have beaten a shaky bears team, a bad St Louis team, and an awful Lions team, the 2 decent teams they have played they have lost against.
It isn't decieving though unless you expected us to be much worse or we had played completely terrible teams and won them all.
3-2 isn't a deceptive record in any way. I, along with other, expected us to go 4-1 at this point. How is going worse than that decieving?
Joined: Jan 04 2006 Posts: 7069 Location: Green Bay
Buc wrote:You haven't beaten anybody of note.
Is that our fault? We've beaten teams and are rated about average in power rankings, rightly so. It isn't like we are being talked about as title contenders or anything.
How is being 3-2 deceptive unless you expected us to go much worse?
3-2 is average. That would only be decpetive if you expected us to be 5-0 or 0-5.
ST_CONROY wrote:Is that our fault? We've beaten teams and are rated about average in power rankings, rightly so. It isn't like we are being talked about as title contenders or anything.
How is being 3-2 deceptive unless you expected us to go much worse?
3-2 is average. That would only be decpetive if you expected us to be 5-0 or 0-5.
ANY DECENT TEAMS YOUVE PLAYED YOU'VE LOST AGAINST.YOU ONLY HAVE A WINNING RECORD BECAUSE YOU'VE BEATEN BAD TEAMS. Is that clearer? I read a few weeks pages back that you wouldnt give Denver credit as theyd beaten bad teams....capiche. By the way theyre 6-0 now.
Joined: Jan 04 2006 Posts: 7069 Location: Green Bay
Buc wrote:There we go Mr Conroy, before engaging into arguments, try and think what youve said previously.
You clearly can't read. I've posted this two pages back.
St_Conroy wrote:I'm finally going to hold my hands up and admit i got the Broncos wrong!
I was wrong about the Broncos, they are a legitimate good team.
However you evidently don't know what deception means.
Dictionary wrote:to mislead by a false appearance or statement
So if you'd actually answer the question. For us to have a decieving record of 3-2 that means you must think we should be either 5-0 or 0-5. SO ARE WE DECEPTIVELY GOOD OR DECEPTIVELY BAD?
We are hardly deceptive if we are the epitomy of middle of the road, ranked around sixteen in most power rankings, not far above 500. Again, does that mean you think we should be top or bottom?
We only lost by one TD to each team. I expect us to get to around 9 or 10 wins. Hardly 16-0 is it.
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