If you look around the pharm on match day the people who like to make noise, chant etc, it's the centre of the Kinler bank. The riverside in general is quiet. The few of us, from our relatively small crowds, who do try and create some atmosphere were never going to compete in a stadium like Wembley.

Thank you very much to all the fans of other clubs for cheering for us. I've seen my team play in front of about 350 fans not long ago. Going bust. Then the Superleague debacle, promoted before anywhere near being ready, merging and finishing bottom of the league 4 seasons running is hardly the best preperation to try and out sing a team as well supported as Warrington. Not having a go at Wires fans but look at how their crowds dropped and all the booing at the start of the season. Imagine if they'd suffered as we have. A team that's played every game in the top flight since day one. We'll be years, if we ever, at all get anywhere near matching that level of support. Don't get on the backs of the fans that do go, be happy we have increased our support in the last 30 years and hope a small measure of success will bring increased support for the future. Young fans are already starting to sitt at the back with us, singing along. They are the future. We need to encourage them.

And if you're Wire and reading this, Well done on your support yesterday, FANtastic!!!

You are right about the two stands at the Galpharm.

My Sister and her lot are planning on moving over to the Britannic stand next season to join in

Then ask your Dad about Knowsley Road!

In a final we do get behind our side, yes, but there are still people whinging in that crowd. I know. I've been near them! We just take more, so they are not as obvious. But they are still there.

Come on be fair, Knowsley Road is not so much a ground more an archaelogical site!!!

We have a great ground with all top notch facilities, we have a really good team and we do have a small number of very dedicated and vocal fans but for what our chairman and his staff including the players have laid on for us in the last few years it's a very poor return....and I'm not talking about numbers here, our home attenances are decent now...pretty steady and competitive...it's just the level of noise we create, even for the derby games...9 times out of 10 we are always outsung by the away support!

You pay it a compliment! We just think of it as a wreck!


But honestly, if you were to visit Knowsley Road as a Saints supporter, it would be no different than what you have described in terms of vocals. It's only the 'pop side' (the longest standing side) that ever gets vocal anyway and the only time the place livens up vocally is when the match is a really tense affair because both teams are in a pitched battle. We've had three of those this season: Wire, Wigan and Leeds. The rest of the time, the away support - even the Celtic fans bless em - have outsung and outnoised us. Honestly! It is true and is a subject of much baffled discussion on RedVee. Yet our away support is generally very vocal (with the exception I think of the CC semi - when we all saw the writing was very much on the wall from very early on in the match!).

Well i have just spent 10 minutes reading what i can only describe as complete non sense, where i was sat it was quiet reguarding chanting, but the lower tiers were ok, but lets face it, since when does a giants crowd make much noise and chant in unison? At home games we get out shouted by catalans! I am 100% supportive of the team and i do sing my heart out but did anyone think we could out shout the wire fans. Im just PROUD to be a Giants fan, What a fantastic season we are having. For people to come on here and slate the fans who showed up at wembley, well thats really gonna make them wanna come to the galpharm!

Anyway i had my say, Well done Giants you did ME proud, and well done Warrington, you deserved it on the day.

Fartown til i die!!

Fair enough, but I don't think any of us are saying we should of outsing the Wire fans....we could never compete with that kind of dedication and passion.....but we were awful, there was next to nothing. Not good enough support, not good enough performance, that's partly why Wire won the game....the other bigger part was their fantastic support and them being a better side on the day.

If they are the same fans who Daz said left after the final hooter and showed no interest in clapping the players or showing their support for getting us to Wembley, nor made any attempt to galvanise the team during the game then frankly they can stay at home.

This was the only reason wire won on the day, nothing to do with our support, we need to be encouraging fans not putting them off by saying they need to "be Louder", if they are new to our game then they are hardly going to sing our songs! If the final increases our home attendances by 5 or 6 hundred people then its been a good thing, but with people like you slating them then they are not going to want to come again.

Is this the most depressing thread on this forum in years or what.

There were 1000s of Giants fans singing and chanting and there were thousands who did not.

I saw loads of groups of people singing BUT could hardly hear anyone.

I was sat about 6 or seven rows behind a lot of Giants fans singing and could hear nothing. I was one block away from Robbos lot and all the others who were chanting and heard nothing.

The only way we would have been heard was
A if we were winning or at least competing
B If Wire were losing or playing as badly as us they would have ben quiet which would have led us to be more vocal.

Whatever you say about ANY teams fans there are those who will sing , win , lose or draw. There are those who will sing when they are winning( the majority).

Yesterday started off very badly, two tries which should never have been given and then us being denied two tries ( one of which should have been) although i have noit yet re - watched the game.

I felt flay after the first two minutes and did not think it was going to be our day. I was still singing at the end. I do not blame all the others who had given up.

If we could have had all those who would have sang together, if wembley was a better stadium, if ticketing was done better, if our end was not full of neutrals who would not sing anyway it would have been different.