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Rupert Pupkin wrote:Not to forget 'special dispensation' that you also like to go on about, funny enough you aint mentioned it this week.
That's really a subset of the tokenist approach to playing your homegrown players in the first team, though. Justin said he would be bringing in plenty of fresh faces this week. Spaven or I'Anson in there? Watts and Esders aren't at the club at the moment, are they?
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Mrs Barista wrote:That's really a subset of the tokenist approach to playing your homegrown players in the first team, though. Justin said he would be bringing in plenty of fresh faces this week. Spaven or I'Anson in there? Watts and Esders aren't at the club at the moment, are they?
As a point of pedantry, isn't your gripe that we don't have a tokenist approach to playing club-trained players? Including a player who is not one our best 17, simply because he is club-trained would be tokenism. Taken too far it can be short-termist, but teams still need to be picked on merit, irrespective of quotas, IMO. One day we'll have an injury crisis, play our kids, and you'll be able to focus all your attention on our accounts. And possibly that we are losing because our squad lacks experience and depth
Post subject: Re: Our chairmans comments in the derby programme
Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:43 am
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cheeky charlie wrote:"Fc are a team of proven internationals and an abundance of local talent who will doubtless be looking to redress the balance from earlier in the season and I suppose also to put a dent in our 6-3 record since arriving in super league. Having said that we continue to feel that we have a point to prove. Certainly we have'nt forgotten certain "cheap" comments aimed at us pre-season about supposed financial problems,cancelled pre-season trips and the like.As long as we carry on making progress and building stability results will continue in my eyes to be more important than grade A licences achieved in part on the back of ten years of local monopoly and subsidised first class facilities."
Well said Hudge
THE SECOND COMING THAT IS NEIL HUDGELL. I NEW WHEN HE FIRST TOOK OFFICE THINGS WERE ABOUT TO HAPPEN AND SO HAS BEEN PROVEN. NEIL HUDGELL IS ON A MISSION. A MISSION TO DESTROY ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT IS BLACK N WHITE IN THIS CITY. THIS MAN(GOD) HAS ONLY JUST STARTED BY THE TIME HE HAS FINISHED THE BLACK N WHITE SHIRTED PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY WILL BE ON THEIR KNEES!!!
IN 100 YEARS THEY WILL STILL BE WRITING BOOKS ABOUT THIS MAN(GOD).
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Mild Rover wrote:As a point of pedantry, isn't your gripe that we don't have a tokenist approach to playing club-trained players? Including a player who is not one our best 17, simply because he is club-trained would be tokenism. Taken too far it can be short-termist, but teams still need to be picked on merit, irrespective of quotas, IMO. One day we'll have an injury crisis, play our kids, and you'll be able to focus all your attention on our accounts. And possibly that we are losing because our squad lacks experience and depth
You are right. I meant that including Spaven, Esders, Watts (and presumably Taylor?) is tokenist as they have only played 1 SL game between them this season. Apologies. Are Esders and Watts actually at the club at the moment?
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Mrs Barista wrote:You are right. I meant that including Spaven, Esders, Watts (and presumably Taylor?) is tokenist as they have only played 1 SL game between them this season. Apologies. Are Esders and Watts actually at the club at the moment?
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Esders loan deal won't have ended yet, not sure about Watts. As it has turned out, Esders has just been making up the numbers, which is a bit disappointing. Happens though - Menzies last year and perhaps Maloney for Hull FC, this(?). Watts, Spaven and Taylor are still developing; the first's form has been ordinary from what I hear on here and the other two are maybe not ready for their debuts yet, in JM's opinion. With 4th looking secure, I'd maybe rest one or two senior players for one or two games and give them a chance - but my opinion counts for nowt, of course.
Mrs Barista wrote:You are right. I meant that including Spaven, Esders, Watts (and presumably Taylor?) is tokenist as they have only played 1 SL game between them this season. Apologies. Are Esders and Watts actually at the club at the moment?
No. Esders has been allowed to go out on-loan due to Newton & Galea's form and Watts needs time at another club to "re-focus".
Why do you ask? Is it because both players would improve your squad?
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