Come on, some people are still blaming not getting Crocker!!!

Yep, he's not signing for you. He like to kiss the badge of Hull FC way too much

It might wearing thin for you but not for me because it is still affecting the team.

For example, look at the team listed above and tell me how many on the list have played for five consecutive games.

And how many of those injured players are going to come in and make a huge difference ??? Not many !!! Apart from a couple of missing players, we would be swapping like for like.

The squad that we have had on the pitch all season, with a coach who knows what he is doing, should be capable of a top 8 finish in the table but we a clearly a bottom four side, not only in results, but also in performance.

Injuries and visas haven't helped but all this blaming of injuries is not only wearing thin with me but it has become more than irritating to hear it.

Thank feck for that

I'm being serious though, any news?

Somewhere on another thread (I can't be bothered to go to the effort of researching it all again) I listed all of the players who were injured/retired etc this year. Since then R Horne, Thackray and now Yeaman are injured. It amounted to approximately (I can't remember exactly) 18 players injured and I think three or four of them (e.g. King) have been injured more than once. It has been impossible to consistently field a team made up of the same core ever (it would be interesting to see the 17 selected for each and every game). Very few of them (apart from Horne's injury against Leeds) kept them out for only one match. Add to that (yes you've guessed it) Crocker not being available (think no Morley for a full season - not necessarily a prop, but someone influential) and Lauaki (think no Carvell for every single game of the season to date) and yes it matters and yes it is still having an effect whether people choose to be bored by the fact or not. Finally, add Thorman to the list - he might as well be injured.

1 Tansey
2 Calderwood
3 Hall
4 Yeaman
5 Raynor
6 R. Horne
7 Berrigan

8 Radford
9 Lee
10 Cordoba
11 Burnett
12 Tickle
13 Whiting

14 Houghton
15 Manu
16 King
17 Moa


The ones in bold havent so that leaves 12 that have....your point now being?

I meant the last 5 consecutive games - you appear to have missed a few off.

Could be wrong but I think the only one he missed was Yeaman, and he only missed the last game

and Whiting - but what it means is that the whole backline have not played (probably all season) together. Just before those last five games we had Berrigan out, King with an eye injury, Dowes, Cusack, Thackray - you name 'em they've been injured. That means all of our first-string front row have been injured. We've had injuries to Manu, G Horne, Burnett (there goes the second row) and injuries to Washy and Whiting (no surprise that he keeps playing Radford at loose man - he's consistently available, even if that's his only ability in the 13 position. I would be surprised if players have completely regained full match fitness since their injuries. Don't foget from the backline you've lost Byrne for good, Briscoe for most of the season and Tony for most of the season (perhaps also for good). Need I go on? I think it's had, and is still having a siginificant effect. Oh - did I mention Lauaki not being available all season as well?