Joined: May 24 2007 Posts: 7504 Location: East Stand
BobinRobins wrote:Full back. Shaun Briscoe Ben Cockayne Wings Peter Fox Liam Colbon Centre Jake Webster Kris Welham A new centre. Loan Kris out to a NL1 side get more experiance Halves Paul Cooke Michael Dobson
Props Michael Vella Liam Watts Scott Wheldon Starting Prop impact prop Hookers Top class hooker Ben Fisher Scott Spavern 2nd row Ben Galea Clint Newton Loose Scott Murrell
Good Utillaty Forward
OUT
Rhys Lovegrove Daniel Fitzhenry Nick Fozzard Chaz I'Anson Makali Aizue Jason Netherton David Mills Ryan Esders Stanley Gene Chev Walker
Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...
Joined: Nov 21 2007 Posts: 1565 Location: East hull
Convict 99 wrote:Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...
Joined: Aug 27 2005 Posts: 756 Location: Old Erness Rode! somewhere between clouds 8 & 10
Convict 99 wrote:Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...
Joined: Mar 20 2009 Posts: 411 Location: East Hull
BobinRobins wrote:Full back. Shaun Briscoe Ben Cockayne Wings Peter Fox Liam Colbon Centre Jake Webster Kris Welham A new centre. Loan Kris out to a NL1 side get more experiance Halves Paul Cooke Michael Dobson
Props Michael Vella Liam Watts Scott Wheldon Starting Prop impact prop Hookers Top class hooker Ben Fisher Scott Spavern 2nd row Ben Galea Clint Newton Loose Scott Murrell
Good Utillaty Forward
OUT
Rhys Lovegrove Daniel Fitzhenry Nick Fozzard Chaz I'Anson Makali Aizue Jason Netherton David Mills Ryan Esders Stanley Gene Chev Walker
Are you for real, losing 10 players out of a 26 man squad is never going to happen
Surely Esders should be given another year? Went well last night against Cats.
I worry about our front row next year Vella hasnt had much game time this year and i wonder how the knee will hold up next season. Ive also been surprised by the huge amount of workload Fozzard has got through this season, im not so sure he could repeat again next year. With Aizue & Mills rumoured to be leaving front row is an area that needs addressing.
Convict 99 wrote:Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...
Possibley the biggest crock of poop not written by fcimp or mattyhfc I've ever read.
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Joined: Jan 23 2006 Posts: 15980 Location: Boulevard with my balls of steel!
Convict 99 wrote:Got to agree with Alex Mc re opinion on Welham, had a cracking season for an ex Hull academy late developer, (he is definately not "young" nor a "prospect", see the likes of Wheeler, Eastmond, Tompkins, Myler, Watkins , T Briscoe for such a description, even Craig Hall is younger....)but he defo aint up to it against the class players, as to the last "bad" game he had, he had an absolute shocker against Wigan and he has a nightmare few minutes minimum in every single game, no coincidence his side is getting targetted every match...good squad player , but will never win you trophies...
And to be even more against the grain, i would wager anybody that Rovers will never win anything whilst Dobson is the scrum half and "general", massively overated and no coincidence he was a reserve in Aus, if the rumours are true i would snap Wigans hand off....a very good individual in the middle reaches of SL but again will never win anything...and not a top class scrum half by any stretch.
I think JM has made a large rod for his own back with these and others and was far too quick to hand out lengthy contracts to various players, tying Rovers into nearly the same (not quite good enough) squad for a few years...with the failure to get to Wembley knocking a massive hole in the income expectations i think this may well be Rovers peak season for a while....expect a " i have taken Rovers as far as i can" statement anytime soon...
Joined: Jun 01 2007 Posts: 12664 Location: Leicestershire.
The massive recruitment drives for 2007 and 2008, to create teams that could survive and the compete were exceptional - in every sense. New signings create excitement but continuity wins trophies. The team is still improving (despite the recent drop in form). Something on a similar scale to last years acquisitions is to be expected, I reckon.
Of the OOC:
Esders and I'anson. If they go they need to be replaced by youngsters from within the club.
Netherton. Solid, reliable. Unspectacular, fair enough - but we'd just be left looking for a similar player if he went, IMO.
Gene - unclear whether he will retire.
Aizue - I like him... but he's from overseas, is 32 before next season and is currently out of a team with a lot of options in his position.
Lovegrove - Has done well at prop. Probably worth another contract to see how he develops.
Fitzhenry - assumed to be going. Ideally should be replaced by a hooker.
Others.
Mills - Played every game round in 2008, but hardly involved this year. If he finds another club, I expect he'd be allowed to leave.
Walker - I'd keep him - especially if Gene does ride off into the sunset - but admit he is a backrower and promote a 3/4 from the reserves/academy.
Cooke/Dobson. In relation to the Brough rumour - he'd be an adequate replacement for Dobson if we cashed in and wanted to free up a qouta spot. But Dobson is top of the Albert Goldthorpe Medal rankings (only Brett Hodgson can catch him now, realistically) for a reason. I'd like to see some continuity at halfback. Cooke remains an enigma and anything could happen there, I guess.
Ins (which I'd like to see):
A hooker. If only there was club nearby with a surfeit of them.
A big, powerful, aggressive forward. Crabtree is unrealistic, IMO, with Hudds so much on the up. Someone from the NRL, perhaps.
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