The man is an RU man.

He would be here only for the £££.

No thanks.

I will be honest here. Wigan IMO are about 4 or 5 top players away from being able to challenge for honors consistently. I'd say you need 2 props, 2 centres and an impact 2nd rower. You have some top class players (Richards, TL, Hock - although his temperament and maturity leave a lot to be desired given his experience. Fekka, O'Loughlin) and some great young prospects, in Tomkins, and Ainscough but you have far too many average players (Bailey, Roberts, Ridell, Coley, Carmont - I know some Wigan fans will strongly disagree but I think his defense is shocking at times, Fielden - again some may disagree but I don't think he'll ever be the top class player he was. There are times when you can see what Wigan are trying to do in attack but they don't have the quality to execute what they want to do.

think youd find most wigan fans would agree with you on that one.




too early to make judgment on ridell and roberts for me but you're spot on with the others... except carmont. some great players have suspect defence eg brent webb

TBH honest I would expect a top international competition to be more intense than a club comp. But the regards the 6 nations and superior skill, are sure??? Even the Union die hards are forever lambasting the inferior skill on show.

Sadly Yes.

6 years ago the onfield product was improving now it is in my opinoion falling short of the previous year.

The skill, defence and pace of union has not only improved but sadly exceeded the current standard of the SL comp.

I feel we have become reliant on the support of the comemtators like the WWE or UFC to make our game seem exciting. The skills in my opinion have fallen significantly in the last few years.

ive said on other threads that the standard of SL has declined, especially so far this season, but at the same time the standard of the six nations has been disappointing. im still waiting for a game to grip me and get me to shout at the telly.

Webb's defense is fine, his positioning is very good and he is safe enough under the high ball and fielding kicks. His one on one tackling is again good enough. I've never been one for blaming full backs for missing tackles, as they shouldn't really be having to make them if te rest of the team does its job.

Noone who is honest about the sport can disagree.

Saints fans won't, but they are one of the worst examples.

The obsession with "Scoot" and quick PTB has taken our game so far backwards I wonder if we will ever recover.

we'll just have to agree to disagree and to be fair you've probably seen more of the lad than i. maybe ive just caught a few of his off moments.