And I take it that is similar to "chaos" then?

So its another made up word, like fuktard then?

like i said before, but why bring my 'kids' into this? and yes I will 'fight' my sons corner I care about 'mine'. If you have any problems with any of my posts on here then i would suggest you contact the forum administrators dont worry i wont report you for breaching the aup 2:1.

Because until the post to which I replied with the answer, you didn't directly ask that question.

Stephen I have no problems with you at all we know each other and have arguments face to face with no animosity at all and also have a laugh together (even if you are too mean to buy a drink but being a poor civil servant 'n all I can understand that) thats what real men do when they argue they dont resort to silly name calling like some on
here do hiding behind silly little nicknames.

Can anyone tell me, please, why we say Fred Karno's Circus to describe something which is chaotic?


FRED KARNO'S ARMY - "A humorous nickname applied to the new British army raised during the First World War, in allusion to Fred Karno, the comedian and producer of stage burlesques, whose real name was Frederick John Westcott (1866-1941). At the time Fred Karno's company was a household name through its high-spirited and eccentric performances. The well-known Army chorus, sung to the tune of 'The Church's One Foundation,' runs:

We are Fred Karno's army,
Fred Karno's infantry;
We cannot fight, we cannot shoot,
So what damn good are we?
But when we get to Berlin
The Kaiser he will say
Hoch, hoch, mein Gott
Vot a bloody fine lot
Fred Karno's infantry.

There are variations, of course, and in the Second World War 'Old Hitler' was substituted for 'The Kaiser.' The name is also applied derisely to other nondescript bodies. Karno himself adopted his stage name, when he and two gymnast colleages filled in at a music hall for an act called 'The Three Carnos.' His agent Richard Warner, suggested they change the 'C' to a more distinctive 'K.' See also Harry Tate's Navy." From "Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable" revised by Adrian Room (HarperCollinsPublishers, New York, 1999, Sixteenth Edition)

Educational this forum as well.

That used to be a favourite saying of my (deceased) Father-in-law and my dad used to use it when describing Leigh

'Leyth they couldnt organise a pi55 up in a brewery bl00dy Fred Karno's army dawn theer' Ahh memories when folks could say their mind without this mamby pamby liberal view of things'

thanks fred, i take your point sir on people this mb, if you can't stand your corner when discussing something you feel passionately about then its a poor show, i did not think the pc warrior comment was aimed at me. thanks again.

But are you ever going to buy me a pint you tight wad, I dont know who has the shorter arms you or our Dave - bl00dy civil servants

if i were coming to the lisa meeting on weds i would, but unfortunately i'm not, by the way your dave wins hands down

He might be playing for Moscow next week!