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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:57 pm 
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Mine is yes.Has to be seriously considered for next season.
Maybe trialed at Magic Weekend where the officials are together for the weekend.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:05 pm 
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yes imo, the rucks are getting a joke, some teams get away with murder others get pinged straight away, so much mucking about, maybe if a second ref was around it might clear it up, it cert needs it






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Long overdue , But there isn't enough "quality " officials around .

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:44 pm 
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The Child/Hicks combination's a sure-fire winner. What could possibly go wrong with that pair on the job?






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B0NES wrote:Long overdue , But there isn't enough "quality " officials around .

Exactly why the 2 ref system would work, 2 average refs would make 1 decent one

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B0NES wrote:Long overdue , But there isn't enough "quality " officials around .

This^^^^ The Rugby League have always struggled to bring quality refs to the top table. To be fair it's always been a thankless task but refs who can do the job without their ego getting in the way have been few and far between.

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 Post subject: Re: Is it now time for two referees?
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I think the quality issue is much over-stated. The thing about 2 not very good referees is that that they see more than 1 brilliant one and more importantly, by limiting the number of infringements that they have to oversee in within their individual roles have an easier job which they should be able to handle better. I have been an advocate of 2 referees for a long time. Hicks is a classic example of a referee who would benefit under this system, the replays show that his individual decisions are usually correct but he misses so much (managing the 10m is a particular weakness of his) that he can ruin a game like last Thursday.

I know we don't have enough good referees to run a game on their own, it is a very difficult, in fact almost impossible, job. It is a job that gets harder every year with the likes of Wigan finding new ways to cheat and other clubs following. Make the job easier by reducing the responsibilities on one man by sharing them between 2 and rather than a talent shortage you may find their is a larger pool of officials capable of performing adequately..

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Erik the not red wrote:.... (managing the 10m is a particular weakness of his)...


Assuming the linesmen still have audio contact with the ref, surely they could police the 10m line, and at the very least tell him that an unfair advantage is being taken.

Having said that, fans have always complained about referees for as long as I can remember, and that's a long time.






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 Post subject: Re: Is it now time for two referees?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:02 pm 
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ccs wrote:Assuming the linesmen still have audio contact with the ref, surely they could police the 10m line, and at the very least tell him that an unfair advantage is being taken.

Having said that, fans have always complained about referees for as long as I can remember, and that's a long time.

touch judges are massively underutilised, get the impression they are instructed not to get involved in policing the offsides.
classic example Thursday which yet again highllights how feeble the officiating is and makes law change pointless unless you actually enforce it, ourscrum and Catalans were at least 5 metres offside as the ball came out.
All well and good saying 10m from centre of the scrum will encourage more attacking play but if the touchies are going to ignore players offside what is the point. The 5 metres back from the base of the scrum was fine so long as the officials enforce it.
Two refs aren't needed, what is needed are officials prepared to wave their flag and/or make the call to the ref to state X is offside.
It's exactly the same with how the police on the roads don't pull up errant motorists for various infringements from low level incidents like careless driving all the way up to and including death by dangerous (I'm not directly involved but have helped crowd fund a private prosecution because the MET police dismissed a cyclist being run over from behind by a women driver on a well lit street with cyclist having lights etc and they basically said no case to answer!!)
And people wonder why the roads are like the wild west.
RL is becoming the same, enforce the rules as we have and then players and coaches have to adapt or be penalised out the game, I think it's as simple as that.

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