FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Hull FC Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 51 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:12 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Aug 01 2005
Posts: 11612
Dave K. wrote:I don't think you get the point, making people unemployed then paying aload of money to send someone abroad .

If that was a company I'd worked for I wouldn't be very happy. It not as if reporting on this trip is essential.


Rovers fanboy (Shaw) probably won't think like that!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:15 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 07 2005
Posts: 7395
Dave K. wrote:Great to see HDM (Reach) paying Matt Shaw to Tenerife to follow Rovers camp.

Bet Appleyard is really happy about that.


I guess with the wide list of clubs he covers he's been kept on. Rovers have indicated that they see the value of a dedicated local media reporter and wanted to help who's to say they are not paying him or helping with paying him to go? constant news about the squad and how its going out there will sell a few seasons for them I guess. Our lot, incidentally, were not interested.






2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:14 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 8178
Location: Never never land away with the fairies
The Dentist Wilf wrote:I guess with the wide list of clubs he covers he's been kept on. Rovers have indicated that they see the value of a dedicated local media reporter and wanted to help who's to say they are not paying him or helping with paying him to go? constant news about the squad and how its going out there will sell a few seasons for them I guess. Our lot, incidentally, were not interested.


For me I don’t see any real value or benefit for either club paying for an advertising package to supplement coverage other than getting a few articles per week return.
In all honesty the articles would in effect be sponsored/paid by the club so there would little in terms of independent sports journalism to ask awkward and probing questions if/when needed.

For me I’d be more tempted to use any money to create a much more professional club media brand that truly engages the fan base. Then tie fans based marketing arm in to this and focus on attracting new fans to the club.

Whilst having RL news and club stories in the HDM I’m not sure it does an awful lot in attracting fans to either club from having a passing interest.

With the changes in broadcasting the games from this season it leaves Hull FC kind of redundant so why not look at offering a subscription based news outlet, with quality in depth news etc.
im sure there’d be a strong take up for such a service if priced right etc.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:51 pm 
Club Captain
Fringe Player

Joined: May 25 2015
Posts: 826
hull fc have lost the plot engaging with the fans,i get a weekly email from doncaster rl telling me how things are going at that club[ why i dont know].i get nothing from hull fc.they never even wished fans a merry christmas and happy new year on website this year.always have before.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 6:27 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 07 2005
Posts: 7395
Chris71 wrote:For me I don’t see any real value or benefit for either club paying for an advertising package to supplement coverage other than getting a few articles per week return.
In all honesty the articles would in effect be sponsored/paid by the club so there would little in terms of independent sports journalism to ask awkward and probing questions if/when needed.

For me I’d be more tempted to use any money to create a much more professional club media brand that truly engages the fan base. Then tie fans based marketing arm in to this and focus on attracting new fans to the club.

Whilst having RL news and club stories in the HDM I’m not sure it does an awful lot in attracting fans to either club from having a passing interest.

With the changes in broadcasting the games from this season it leaves Hull FC kind of redundant so why not look at offering a subscription based news outlet, with quality in depth news etc.
im sure there’d be a strong take up for such a service if priced right etc.



Yeh I get all that and good points particularly about a subscription based news service run by the club, which could also cover for the now redundant match day programme and bring them some income. However I guess that the fact that the mail stories about Hull FC get half a million hits a month and are free access must rub off on some people, few brands whatever they represent would not turn that away, but I guess as an old 'en I just worry about any traditional media outlet being eroded because it is something I read every day and from what a lot of the kindred spirits I meet in Beverley say they will miss it too. (mind you they are all old as well :lol: As a rovers fan said earlier their stories before their Tenerife jolly have diminished considerably since their reporter has gone and its not that good since they have been out there accompanied by a reporter. However, all that said, for FC news all is not lost just yet as following extensive lobbying of those concerned a temporary extension has been granted to Dans contract!! but at present it is only temporary.






2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!


Last edited by The Dentist Wilf on Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:03 am 
International Board Member
International Board Member

Joined: Mar 14 2003
Posts: 25774
Location: Back in Hull.
A friend of mine spoke to Dan yesterday, he has managed to get an extension to his job.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:04 am 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 07 2005
Posts: 7395
Dave K. wrote:A friend of mine spoke to Dan yesterday, he has managed to get an extension to his job.


Ha Ha just amended my above thread to say that 3 months I believe.






2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:37 am 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Nov 19 2008
Posts: 5370
I did wonder with hum churning out articles. Shaw will cover Rovers with Dan covering us

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:22 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Dec 07 2005
Posts: 7395
Its interesting to note to those Rovers fans that have commented on losing their dedicated reporter at the Mail and bemoaning the fact that their stories have dried up, (whilst Dan Tomlinson has had his stay of execution delayed for three months), that although they have 'assisted' with a Mail reporter travelling to camp with them all week, we have seen more stories about the FC than Rovers and today it equates to 5 to 1 three of which I found extremely interesting.

For me being a fan isn't all about winning or indeed losing but rather feeling part of what's going on and I really enjoy visiting the Mail pages as I do these (and the camaraderie there is on here) and the Yorkshire posts every day to read about the club I love, as do 500,000 other daily 'hits' of FC fans on the Mail site too apparently. I'd miss it if it disappeared and I'm pleased that it's continuing for a while at least.






2016 The Year of the Airlie Bird -on sale NOW, price £15, BUY THE BOOK RE-LIVE THE DREAM!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Reach Group Newspapers and the demise of an institution
PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:21 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain

Joined: Jul 07 2006
Posts: 3905
The Dentist Wilf wrote:Its interesting to note to those Rovers fans that have commented on losing their dedicated reporter at the Mail and bemoaning the fact that their stories have dried up, (whilst Dan Tomlinson has had his stay of execution delayed for three months), that although they have 'assisted' with a Mail reporter travelling to camp with them all week, we have seen more stories about the FC than Rovers and today it equates to 5 to 1 three of which I found extremely interesting.

For me being a fan isn't all about winning or indeed losing but rather feeling part of what's going on and I really enjoy visiting the Mail pages as I do these (and the camaraderie there is on here) and the Yorkshire posts every day to read about the club I love, as do 500,000 other daily 'hits' of FC fans on the Mail site too apparently. I'd miss it if it disappeared and I'm pleased that it's continuing for a while at least.


Well you’ve only your own club to blame for it not continuing due to not being prepared to pay in. Tomlinson’s redundancy is paying for the extra 3 months he’s doing.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 51 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6  Next





It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:34 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: BP1, ComeOnYouUll, DSJ1983, EtonStreetRifle, Faithful One, Marcus's Bicycle, mwindass, Offy86, REDWHITEANDBLUE, TitanicClown and 181 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:34 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
8m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
9m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
495
31m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
28
43m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
47m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40716
49m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
50m
Film game
Boss Hog
5593
59m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
189
Recent
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
Recent
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
189
1m
Salford
rubber ducki
8
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
1m
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
2m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
495
2m
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
2m
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
2m
IMG Score
Bullseye
80
2m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
240
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
476
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1237
England's Women Demolish The W..
1065
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1301
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1092
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1351
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1900
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2117
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2361
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1935
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2170
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2638
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2062
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2142
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
8m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
9m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
495
31m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
28
43m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
Zig
13
47m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40716
49m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63207
50m
Film game
Boss Hog
5593
59m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
189
Recent
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
Recent
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
189
1m
Salford
rubber ducki
8
1m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
94
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4008
1m
2025 Kit
dddooommm
9
2m
Transfer Talk V5
RAPIDO
495
2m
Pre Season - 2025
UllFC
181
2m
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
2m
IMG Score
Bullseye
80
2m
Out of contract 2025
rubber ducki
62
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Cokey
1
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
1
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
karetaker
14
TODAY
Fixtures
Wollo-Wollo-
9
TODAY
Salford
rubber ducki
8
TODAY
WCC Off
NickyKiss
10
TODAY
Leeds away first up
WT_Midlander
36
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
The Biffs Ba
28
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Khlav Kalash
17
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
240
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
476
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1237
England's Women Demolish The W..
1065
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1301
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1092
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1351
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1900
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2117
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2361
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1935
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2170
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2638
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2062
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2142


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.