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 Post subject: Re: RADFORD OUT
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 8:52 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote:At no point have i said Pearson out but but i am questioning his judgement one one major factor and thats the coach


Sebasteeno wrote:Pearsons as clueless as the Allams. You can add Hudgehill to this list too

Im starting to think Pearson is a slightly better version of Kath Hetherington - both have won silverware - both utterly cluless at times- both knew/know how to milk the fans

How longs Pearson been here - 8, 9, 10 years - we look as far away from being a grand final winning side than when he first arrived


not much else needs typing....

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 Post subject: Re: RADFORD OUT
PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:12 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote:At no point have i said Pearson out but but i am questioning his judgement one one major factor and thats the coach


You sound a little less supportive here mind
Sebasteeno wrote:Our club is a mess from top to bottom, a rudderless ship with a captain akin to Francesco Schettino of Costa Concordia fame and thats not gonna change whilst Pearson remains at the club

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:53 pm 
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Dave K. wrote:If Hetheringon etc stayed, we would have been close to going bust, be similar position to Bradford or Widnes.

No way would we have won two cups Pearson has been great for Hull, has he made mistakes yes and his loyalty to Radford worries me. We are in a better place on and off the pitch, ok we arent quite were we want to be, but it miles away from the Kath/Rule and Agar era.


Given what Rule did to Widnes to say Pearson is better than him is practically the dictionary definition of damning with faint praise.

My personal opinion is that Pearson is without doubt a safer pair of hands than Kath/Rule, but I agree with Seb that in terms of results on the pitch we've been little or no better under his stewardship.

I don't necessarily think that's a problem. Pearson is a steady hand on the tiller, he won't over commit to put the club at risk and we should be thankful for that.

He's run the club effectively and made some wise investments in infrastructure, but these have proven ineffective in making us any more of a consistent challenger to the likes of Leeds, St Helens, Wigan etc.

We're in a echelon of teams that can have intermittent successes, but never turn this into a period of domination. We've been to 1 GF since its inception in 1998. The same as Castleford and Salford. Castleford and Huddersfield have each won a league leaders shield during the Pearson era whilst we have not.

Maybe, as Mrs B suggests, it's down to our turnover being too low to compete, though how does that explain the stats above.

I don't have a problem with Pearson running a steady ship. The only thing that irritates me is the constant media soundbites about performances being unacceptable then doing nothing about it, or "I expect to be in the GF" when experience shows us that the current coaching team can't get us there.

If he's dead set on keeping Radford then just be honest about it and stop with the false promises of success.






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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 9:56 pm 
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Sebasteeno wrote:At no point have i said Pearson out but but i am questioning his judgement one one major factor and thats the coach


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:01 pm 
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LOL @ Isaiah

Again ill repeat not once have i said Pearson out even if Mrs B has to resort to pulling posts out from years ago - i said he was clueless then and hes not exactly great now either - his continuous support of a coach who consistently doesnt get the best out of what he has in front of him proves that.

But at least were doing well in the decent (but rented) training facilities league that some people seem to laud us about. Oh and merchandise sells well.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:26 am 
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Chris71 wrote:For me over the years we have had great players at this club, some good teams and some poor teams. However the 2020 squad Pearson has provided us is in all my 40 years watching the best groups/collective as a squad of players we have ever had. If you also add in to the fact that Pearson has invested in the training facilities and development side of the club too we are in the best place we have ever been under any owner. Adam Pearson can not be questioned on these points however the coaching side is where things can rightly be questioned as we have everything in pls e other than a coach that can take us to the next level in terms of consistency at the top level.
He has had 7 years and a lot of backing and we are still really no further on and continuing in the same hit and miss manor.
We have had poorer teams in the past but the teams attitude desire and work ethic couldn’t be questioned as they gave their all so even losing we couldn’t ask for more. Today’s team should be delivering more and feel it’s down to the coaching.


Great post.
My dilemma though is, because of the bit in bold, we need to let the season develop, in order to establish what the squad is likely to achieve.
6 games in isn't long enough, but how long is too long?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:40 am 
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Large Paws wrote:Great post.
My dilemma though is, because of the bit in bold, we need to let the season develop, in order to establish what the squad is likely to achieve.
6 games in isn't long enough, but how long is too long?


Highly unlikely before the Cup starts even if we lose the next three. Should that happen and we exit the Cup at the first hurdle followed by a derby loss then who knows.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:46 am 
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Sebasteeno wrote:LOL @ Isaiah

Again ill repeat not once have i said Pearson out even if Mrs B has to resort to pulling posts out from years ago - i said he was clueless then and hes not exactly great now either - his continuous support of a coach who consistently doesnt get the best out of what he has in front of him proves that.

But at least were doing well in the decent (but rented) training facilities league that some people seem to laud us about. Oh and merchandise sells well.


But you have said the club is a mess from top to bottom, a rudderless ship, and that nothing will change while Pearson owns the club. If you are as ambitious for the club as you seem how can you want him to stay and preside over what you perceive as an utter shambles? .

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Mrs Barista wrote:But you have said the club is a mess from top to bottom, a rudderless ship, and that nothing will change while Pearson owns the club. If you are as ambitious for the club as you seem how can you want him to stay and preside over what you perceive as an utter shambles? .

That post is from around eight years ago - a lot has improved around the club since then - the coaching hasnt though

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ComeOnYouUll wrote:Highly unlikely before the Cup starts even if we lose the next three. Should that happen and we exit the Cup at the first hurdle followed by a derby loss then who knows.

I agree, it’s very unlikely.

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