There isn’t a discussion as such, just Knockers being a bit petulant after his enforced absence.

No I'm not the one saying the season is over, I'm ridiculing the fact that every time we lose we get a 'season over' comment/Middle 8s thread comment.
As it happens IF we are no longer able to qualify for the top 4 at some point then surely that's exactly what we should do.
Until then we play the strongest fittest team we have and we fight hammer and nail to get into the top 4. I'm just fed up of so called fans writing us off every single time we lose including after the wigan loss and as far back as March from some quarters.

How do you reconcile your optimism with the fact Lee Radford is in charge?

He finds solace in the improvements in the club's youngsters

The forward battle against Widnes should be made a little easier with Chris Houston copping a ban.
He's not the greatest but he's a relentless workhorse.

Couldn't agree less. He is a liability and we would be better off if he did play.

Deffo a penalty machine near there line.

Think you are both right

Defo penalty machine, but he does have a bit of quality about him especially in defence.

You should put 30+ on these even with a couple out

Thanks. But you "should" have won one of the last 7 derbies, so you can never tell.

what's to reconcile? Unlike you I support our team in any kind of weather, you're the one who has been writing the team off regularly from the get go, how do you reconcile the fact we are still in with a shout of getting in the top 4 after you started a M8s thread, keep saying we're going to lose every-time the opposition look a bit frisky/we concede a try or two and continue on saying the season is over?

I support the team no matter who is in charge or whether I like them or the job they are doing, Casey, Crooks, Agar, Radford. But I have never given up on the team unlike yourself, I've never boo'd the team unlike many so called fans (despite my annoyance and/or anger at shoddy/woeful performances) and I will continue to make the 350 mile round trip as often as I can, as I have done for coming up to 30 years barring a period in the early 90s when that wasn't possible.