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| The Chiefs have got a starting QB and they didn't have to give up their 1st pick to get him as they traded 2013/14 2nd round picks to get Alex Smith from the 49ers.They will now hope they get the Alex Smith from the last 2 years and not the pre 2011 season one.
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| The Chiefs are idiots. Terrible deal for them. I'm willing to bet Smith will be Matt Cassell, the sequel
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| Quote Adamjk="Adamjk"The Chiefs are idiots. Terrible deal for them. I'm willing to bet Smith will be Matt Cassell, the sequel'"
100%. Alex Smith is a bust who was made moderately respectable by being surrounded by an excellent team. He is nothing but a game manager at his absolute best. Exactly the same as Cassell - looked average in a great team and was built up largely because of their record. On a team where he is expected to do everything he will fold.
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| I think Jamal Charles will be very upset. I think it's a bit harsh to call him a bust. I acknowledge that he doesn't have the tools of a Rodgers, Brees, Brady type quarterback, but as you say he isn't a terrible game manager. I don't think you need an elite qb anymore to win a superbowl. There was a debate of Dave Dameshek's football podcast arguing this point. Flacco and Eli Manning are hardly top 5 qb's but you can get it done on the back of a decent d and a good run.
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| Alex Smith got better in SF when they drafted a lot of o-linemen with high draft picks and the Chiefs will be drafting the same with their 1st pick.The big thing for the Chiefs will also be can they get some good WR's to help Smith as the only half decent one they had in Bowe will probably be gone in free agency.
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| Quote Nola="Nola"I think Jamal Charles will be very upset. I think it's a bit harsh to call him a bust. I acknowledge that he doesn't have the tools of a Rodgers, Brees, Brady type quarterback, but as you say he isn't a terrible game manager. I don't think you need an elite qb anymore to win a superbowl. There was a debate of Dave Dameshek's football podcast arguing this point. Flacco and Eli Manning are hardly top 5 qb's but you can get it done on the back of a decent d and a good run.'"
He is a bust. I think he is as good as he will get which when you consider his draft position and performances isn't great.
You can of course win without an absolutely elite QB however to do so you need to have virtually all the other pieces in place and a very good team around them. He had that in San Fran. He won't have that in KC. He isn't a good enough QB to paper over his teams cracks.
He is a step up from Cassell but that is it. They'll win more games but ultimately do nothing.
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| Quote ST_CONROY="ST_CONROY"He is a bust. I think he is as good as he will get which when you consider his draft position and performances isn't great.
You can of course win without an absolutely elite QB however to do so you need to have virtually all the other pieces in place and a very good team around them. He had that in San Fran. He won't have that in KC. He isn't a good enough QB to paper over his teams cracks.
He is a step up from Cassell but that is it. They'll win more games but ultimately do nothing.'"
I think you're spot on with regards to his ceiling. I think the Chiefs have more talent than people think though, just need somebody to put it all together. I'd say he hasn't met expectations of a number 1 pick but to be classed as a bust you'd have to be in the same boat with Rick Mirer, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, David Carr, Jamarcus Russell, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Mark Sanchez* etc. All these have been highly touted and have amounted to nothing, I think Smith has been better than all of these and is still a starting quarterback in the league after eight years. It get's magnified due to the best qb in the league coming out of the same draft.
*will give him a little plass due to 2 AFC championship games but he is awful now.
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| More QB news from the NFL as the Ravens have give Flacco what he wanted (6 year deal worth over 120 million).
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| Quote DAR130="DAR130"More QB news from the NFL as the Ravens have give Flacco what he wanted (6 year deal worth over 120 million).'" shocking deal. Not even best in his division.
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| Quote Nola="Nola"I think you're spot on with regards to his ceiling. I think the Chiefs have more talent than people think though, just need somebody to put it all together. I'd say he hasn't met expectations of a number 1 pick but to be classed as a bust you'd have to be in the same boat with Rick Mirer, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, David Carr, Jamarcus Russell, Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Matt Leinart, Vince Young, Mark Sanchez* etc. All these have been highly touted and have amounted to nothing, I think Smith has been better than all of these and is still a starting quarterback in the league after eight years. It get's magnified due to the best qb in the league coming out of the same draft.
*will give him a little plass due to 2 AFC championship games but he is awful now.'"
I suppose, like you say, it is a question of expectations. Those players you mention are completely terrible. Smith is at least better than those. For me there is a difference between complete bust and draft bust though.
Chiefs are a fairly decent team. I really like Charles and they have a good defence. With a good QB I think they would be competing for a wild card (simply because Denver is winning the division).
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| Quote DAR130="DAR130"More QB news from the NFL as the Ravens have give Flacco what he wanted (6 year deal worth over 120 million).'"
I'd like to thank the Ravens for the fact that we will have to pay Rodgers a horrendously huge contract when we extend him. He, rightly, should be the highest paid QB in the league.
Fair play to Flacco though. He had leverage and seems to have used it well!
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