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| Quote Ashmeister="Ashmeister"The player that wins it as usually played a season or 2 in super league. Just like Richard Whiting one year and James Graham the other year.
Ainscough should be no where near young super league player of the year imo, untill he sorts out his defence. Kevin Penny can score tries for fun too. However i do think Ainscough in a few years will be a excellent player. Tom Briscoe as had a all round fantastic season up to date and Richard Owen as bin fantastic.
As for Sam Tomkins. Myler as been the stand out half back from the youngsters this season. He is carrying Salford around very well and outplayed Tomkins in the Salford vs Wigan game. Infact if Eastmond can stay fit then he'll be up there aswell. Looked the more confident and dangerous of the two when Saints played Wigan imo.'"
 if Ainscough was a Saints player he'd be number 1 on that list of yours on your sig and you'd calling for him to be MOS let alone YPOTY.
As for Tomkins vs Myler, Myler scored of a kick through and scored after supporting a break, yet Sam set up a try, created a 50m try on his own and scored 40m try off a mistake.
So yeah Tomkins got outplayed by Myler and Eastmond should be YPOTY cause of a kick and a drop goal 
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Yes
In Your Opinion, I am not saying they aren't just that we have 4 x promising HB's coming though, and that's all they are at "This Stage" Pro=mising and it isn't something we can yet start Screaming from the rooftops about!
Myler/Tomkins/Wheeler are as naturally gifted as any young half back we've come up with for many years. Thankfully we now seem to be producing halves whose games aren't based on pace and nothing else.
Don't disagree massively, I'm just saying give it time and let them get established as SL regulars 1st before we start claiming the system bringing them through is Wonderful & going to end our International drought as IMHO the same system is partly responsible for sending us backwards over the last 5/6 years.
Who are the 7/8? Not being difficult, just interested? The likes of Rooney/Horne/Brough/Brown were never as highly thought of as the young halves coming through and are just about better than average players. Pryce wasn't playing in the halves until a couple of years ago and is another player whose game is based on pace/strength rather than guile - same with Burrow/McGuire, all pace.
Whatever their game was based on is irrelevant as they WERE being trumpeted as the likely Saviours of the English game and I have already named More Halfbacks from 5/6 years ago that this applied to than what you are mentioning here!
Are you 100% sure that these 4 are going to go onto Glorious International careers? You can't be.
I'm not saying they arent but again to start Lauding the System without any Proof that it will improve us is just OTT in my opinion.
Luke Robinson is the only player who I would suggest had the full range of skills but Myler is already a better player than him at 18.
The likes of Myler/Wheeler/Tomkins are far more exciting IMO, just because of the skill set.
Don't disagree, but have they done anything yet to PROVE it?
FWIW I think it is promising as they are a different "TYPE" of Half back but again let's not jump the gun.
Add in the likes of Burgess/Graham who are genuine international props at such a young age and other top drawer prospects like Lomax/Eastmond/Ainscough/Shenton/Westerman - it's been a long time since I can remember such a glut of genuine talent.'"
For Burgess & Graham Read Morley/Peacock/Fielden!
For the rest read :- Wellens/Hodgson/R Horne/D McGuire/Rob Burrow/Sinfield/Roby/Gleeson/L Robinson/K Brown/Hock/P Cooke/L Pryce/S Wild/C Walker/K Yeaman etc etc.
At the time the Sky Brigade and many fans were thinking these players were going to improve us Internationally, Did they???
We have had exciting youngsters developing EVERY YEAR for the last 100 years.
Unfortunatley this hasn't always transposed itself onto the international scene and in some ways we have gone backwards.
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| Quote Ashmeister="Ashmeister"Mylers all round game is better and so is Eastmonds.'"
Not sure how you can say that about Eastmond so far.
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| I would compare Tomkins to Danny Mcguire in that he's a runner, a line-breaker, an off the cuff player who can make something happen out of nothing.
Put alongside an organiser and a creator (which by the way Leuluai most certainly isn't) its very exciting to think of the impact Sam can have.
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| Quote Ashmeister="Ashmeister"Mylers all round game is better and so is Eastmonds.'"
ahmeister clearly has a thang for Eastmond, so leave him alone with his unfounded fantasies.
we shall see who plays the best on the weekend
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| Quote Ashmeister="Ashmeister"Mylers all round game is better and so is Eastmonds.'"
I watched the reserve final at Saints last year and Tomkins was a class act whereas Eastmond was dreadful. I'm sure he could have played better but he didn't seem interested. Even the Saints speccies were annoyed at him.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Not sure how you can say that about Eastmond so far.'"
He kicked a drop-goal against "the Pies"!! Surely he's world class now!! 
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| Cant quite see whats so funny with my opinion on Sam Tomkins.
Ritchie Myler this season, as been the better player of the two. Eastmond on the other hand as been injured.
Hopefully Kyle is fully fit now and can enjoy the rest of the season. Starting with Murrayfield.
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| Quote Ashmeister="Ashmeister"Cant quite see whats so funny with my opinion on Sam Tomkins.
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It's not funny it's just wrong(everyones entiltles to be wrong i may add).
Myler has been superb this year but has played every minute of every game for Salford and is in his second full season of first team rugby. Tomkins on the other hand has been playing in short bursts and is just feeling his way in to first team rugby(and doing a great job).
Due to Eastmonds lack of gametime it's hard to make a call on him as a whole but as for this season alone he shouldn't be named in the same breath as Myler or Tomkins.
In reserve team rugby i do believe Tomkins has had Eastmond in his back pocket on pretty much every occasion they've faced each other though.
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"For Burgess & Graham Read Morley/Peacock/Fielden!
For the rest read :- Wellens/Hodgson/R Horne/D McGuire/Rob Burrow/Sinfield/Roby/Gleeson/L Robinson/K Brown/Hock/P Cooke/L Pryce/S Wild/C Walker/K Yeaman etc etc.
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To be fair, a number of those you've named have only been bigged up by their clubs supporters (Wellens/Hodgson/Sinfield/Brown/Wild/Walker), a few have had other reasons for not taking their game on (I think Yeamans injury knocked him back years, Robinson dropping to a team of lesser quality).
I think you're being harsh on the three props you name, who have all done well at international level on a fairly consistent basis, Roby did well in the last two tournaments and Gleeson has played well, as as Hock (though a touch inconsistently)
In fact the only player that really hasn't improved his game as I thought he might is McGuire.
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