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| I don't want to name names for legal reasons but there have been a few cases past and present were players have been a little bit naughty and broke the law.
Just wondering if people think that if a player breaks the law (a fairly serious law) that they should be banned from the game.
We have a reputation [rugby of being a family sport with good reletionships with the community as a whole.
Players need to be good role models and frankly some have been far from it.
Should we make examples of players now so that future players start to learn that these types of things will not be tolerated
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| i understand where ur coming from, but how do u pick which laws have been broken,
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| I also understand were your coming from and in the everyday job im sure you would be sacked or to put it another way, your job wouldn't be there for when you got out.
It's a difficult question to answer but i think it should be the decision of the club and not made an RFL rule.
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| I understand where you are coming from but i think it'd be difficult.
What laws would you have to break to be excluded or would it be any laws at all?
Personally i agree that if it is a serious offence then they should be banned, maybe for 2 years or something.
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| i don't understand where your coming from
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| I agree that players should receive some sort of punishment, however i think it should be the clubs responsibility to do this. If Warrington had any players that broke laws such as assault, breaking and entering or drugs offenses, I would like to se the club sack these players not "support them through this difficult time". I do agree with the point about which offenses should be punished, but I would hope that the club could use it's better judgement to realize what actions are unacceptable for a professional player.
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| where are you coming from?
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| When i say serious laws, i mean not traffic law or a little drunk and disorderly in bridge street.
Why should there be any leniency just because you only have a short career.
If i commited a crime and i was a police man for 20 years would i say "well be lenient and don't fire me i don't know any other career"
End of the day Tough Sh--
I say that clubs should not stick by these players regardless of how good they are.
I can think of a certain 4 at the moment
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| if its serious enough they'll be inside anyway, if they aren't then they are free to earn a living, to quote the meerkats ad "SIMPLES"
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| With a criminal conviction you simply are not allowed to be in certain professions
i just think this should be one of them.
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| Do ya know where your coming from,
go on dianna ross.
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| Quote ="YED79"With a criminal conviction you simply are not allowed to be in certain professions
i just think this should be one of them.'" Little bit over the top there, I mean we're talking Rugby players here not the bIoody home sec!
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| Violent criminals should be locked up for a good 15 years anyroad, so yes.
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| An actual court transcript......
"After shouting insults at his wife, Mr X grabbed her arm, causing three bruises. "
the world is in an absolute shambles and we have lost all sense of what is a serious crime and what is not.......
Imagine its a Saturday night and some scrote from Longford rings 999 and said theres a bloke just grabbed a womans arm and called her a dirty slut.....
can you imagine the response.....
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"An actual court transcript......
"After shouting insults at his wife, Mr X grabbed her arm, causing three bruises. "
the world is in an absolute shambles and we have lost all sense of what is a serious crime and what is not.......
Imagine its a Saturday night and some scrote from Longford rings 999 and said theres a bloke just grabbed a womans arm and called her a dirty slut.....
can you imagine the response.....'"
would you stand for that if that was your daughter/wife/mother/grandmother/sister
i know i wouldn't
there is more to assault than just bruises
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| Quote ="YED79"would you stand for that if that was your daughter/wife/mother/grandmother/sister
i know i wouldn't
there is more to assault than just bruises'"
the transcript is only partial and doesn't go into the context of the argument.
as for should they be allowed to play, well that is surely the job of a RFL panel to discide as to whether convicted players have brought the game into disrepute. baring in mind these players are role models to youngsters and are effectively paid entertainers who are recieving our money.
if convicted players are found to have brought the game into disrepute then the RFL should act accordingly.
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| Quote ="YED79"I don't want to name names for legal reasons but there have been a few cases past and present were players have been a little bit naughty and broke the law.
Just wondering if people think that if a player breaks the law (a fairly serious law) that they should be banned from the game.
We have a reputation [rugby of being a family sport with good reletionships with the community as a whole.
Players need to be good role models and frankly some have been far from it.
Should we make examples of players now so that future players start to learn that these types of things will not be tolerated'" no unless otherwise stated in the players contract. unless its work related ie bus driver drink driving etc it was completely un related and should be treated as so unless they can not un-forfill their duties ie playing
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| I say they should be publicly pilloried, stretched on the rack then hung, drawn and quartered. That will teach them.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I say they should be publicly pilloried, stretched on the rack then hung, drawn and quartered. That will teach them.'"
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| Quote ="mark_m"I say they should be publicly pilloried, stretched on the rack then hung, drawn and quartered. That will teach them.'"
Hang 'em, then hang 'em again just so they get the message. Then make them sign for an NFP club.
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| Quote ="JWP"Hang 'em, then hang 'em again just so they get the message. Then make them sign for an NFP club.'"
Although it would be hard to tell if Leon Pryce has had his neck stretched.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Although it would be hard to tell if Leon Pryce has had his neck stretched.'"
Hang him by his Sourav Gangulys
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| The RFL should take a leaf out of the NRL's book and ban them from the competition. It sends out a strong signal to all the other players in the league as well as the player(s) who get banned.
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| I`m all for giving people a 2nd chance in life within reason, obviously certain things are beyond this.
If you brought in a rule where it was 2 strikes and your out then i don`t think any player could have any arguement against this, what i mean by 2 strikes and out is things like being charged by the police twice or two court convictions during your career and on the 2nd charge or conviction then your out of RL worldwide.
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"I`m all for giving people a 2nd chance in life within reason, obviously certain things are beyond this.
If you brought in a rule where it was 2 strikes and your out then i don`t think any player could have any arguement against this, what i mean by 2 strikes and out is things like being charged by the police twice or two court convictions during your career and on the 2nd charge or conviction then your out of RL worldwide.'"
*cough a certain saints player would fit that criteria cough*
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