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mat wrote:think point is he didnt really make any last week, at least not catastrophic ones. One missed tackle, which led to a try early doors but at least he managed to attempt the tackle which is more than 11 other players did. One bad decision going outside the winger and being forced into touch but if it had come off people would be hailing it as a brilliant try and 1? unnecessary pass to sheriffe, which came off anyway.
Compared to some off last years performances I thought it was quite encouraging overall although theres still room for improvement, in particular cutting out running across the field and running forward instead although he did seem to improve in this respect as the game progressed
My patience has obviously worn thinner than yours! That said I take on board the point that others were as bad if not worse such as Jeffries. There is room for improvement.
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Post subject: Re: Why isn't Paul Sykes our Full Back????
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:48 pm
Duckman
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Northern Boys wrote:couldn't agree more mate,platt is a loose cannon,and sykes isn't a centre but an out and out full-back,can't macca even spot this?
what would we give to have mumby playing now for the side?
I think part of the answer might be that Im not sure if Paul Sykes thinks Paul Sykes' best position is full back. (did he not start out as a stand off??)
He can play full back, has played there, and can do it quite well. But he's still not a top drawer full back if you ask me, much like Reardon looked good there in spells. We also need Sykes in the Centre at the moment more than we need him at FB IMO.
I also think Platt did not do as bad as some people are making out. Like has been said he made three obvious errors, but the fans are looking for them to pounce on and they get highlighted, rightly or wrongly (Im as guilty of this as anyone). His work rate was good and he did look to support the ball but all too often it never got that far, there were plenty of occations of Platt running through the line but the ball never being released.
Having said all that, Im not sure if Platt, Sykes or Halley are the best answer for full back, but they are our options for this year and they will all suffer in comparason to a very long spell of the club having superb full backs.
Post subject: Re: Why isn't Paul Sykes our Full Back????
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:32 am
bobsmyuncle
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Duckman wrote:Having said all that, Im not sure if Platt, Sykes or Halley are the best answer for full back, but they are our options for this year and they will all suffer in comparason to a very long spell of the club having superb full backs.
Herein lies the problem. Its not either/or for those 3, its simply the fact that none compare in any area to previous Bulls full backs and even worse - are not up to current SL standards of most other clubs full backs.
It beggars belief that this key role was not recruited in the off season, especially as we seem to have no young players coming through in this position. Are we destined to have 3 mediocrre full back choices for the next few years?
Post subject: Re: Why isn't Paul Sykes our Full Back????
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:00 am
redeverready
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bobsmyuncle wrote:Herein lies the problem. Its not either/or for those 3, its simply the fact that none compare in any area to previous Bulls full backs and even worse - are not up to current SL standards of most other clubs full backs.It beggars belief that this key role was not recruited in the off season, especially as we seem to have no young players coming through in this position. Are we destined to have 3 mediocrre full back choices for the next few years?
I'd take Platt over Mathers, Tony, Blaymire, Melling, McGoldrick, Fitzpatrick, Reardon and Wellens.
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Post subject: Re: Why isn't Paul Sykes our Full Back????
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:55 pm
Duckman
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bobsmyuncle wrote:... Are we destined to have 3 mediocrre full back choices for the next few years?
Yep. although the more positve spin is that we signed Platt as a decent/average super league full back who did look to have the "potential" to be much much better, and I'm sure the club would say that is still the work in progress which is why he has been given a new contract.
Also as RER points out, super league is not exactly awash with great alternatives, out of RER's list I'd only take Wellens over Platt, Greenshileds and Webb are the ones off the list Id pick if I could obviously! as the others just have different faults which would not improve us over Platt IMHO. (still dont know why Reardons not kicked on as he had more potential then Platt IMO, oh well)
Sykes is as good as he's going to be at FB, and he'll play Centre more. Halley I think is a more natural winger than FB, he could prove me wrong but I think its a longer shot than seeing real improvment out of Platt.
Joined: Aug 27 2005 Posts: 4371 Location: Bradford
Whether Wellens does or does not get caught out this season, we won't know until October time.
What we know about Wellens now is that he's a top class FB, and I think many Bradford fans would have him in their team over Platt.
FWIW, Sykes had one game at FB last year and did well, if Crookes came into the team and did well (he looked good at Dewsbury, admittedly only Dewsbury), then the option could arise for Sykes to take Platt's place.
People are very easy to jump on Platt. Yes, he makes mistakes, but its apparent his game is based on confidence. He's comfortable alot of the time but when the crowd seem to get on his back, it doesn't help anyone.
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