The Fozz. Bryn has gone backwards, and does so in contact, Frodsham for all his potential needs a folly, and Maurie is just failing to impress when the hard graft is needed.

We can't rely on Jammer and Tony all season.

I was thinking that, Fozz was looking good today. Seemed like he had lost a little weight and he looked really enthusiastic. eeek, maybe it was a big mistake letting him go.

Just a bit O/T but Long and Puletua were Saints best players tonight. TP is a monster, very hard to tackle. Roby and Cunningham went missing to be fair.

I actually think we're slightly stronger up front this year. Puletua is superb, he has great hands and makes big yards. We've lacked a big prop ever since Anderson left, that's not a problem from this year but the last two seasons and the start of this.

I thought we missed Pryce tonight. He makes big yards off the back of good PTB's, offloads the ball and gives us another creative option in the middle.

Bob on. I thought we dominated more than enough up front but lacked any sort of creativity when attacking their line. The forwards did their job but nothing was done on the back of it. Pryce, for all his negatives, was severely missed tonight.

I thought Maurie was much better tonight, although there is way more to come.

Have been disappointed with Bryn and Clough thus far - both seem to be carrying a few pounds.

The player we have never quite replaced is Paul Anderson - trundling away, but always going forward...Only Graham matches his go forward. Have we won the big prize since he left?

I rest my case.

Wilkin is going backwards imo. He does absolutely nothing!!! unless we stick 50 on a team, then he looks good.

He is our top tackler so far in 2009 and made 41 against Warrington, only missing 3.

He is a talented footballer in terms of having a decent kicking game and a decent pair of hands, but his work rate is often overlooked with a lot of people having him down as a show pony.

The reality is he was our 3rd top tackler last year too, averaging 27 tackles a game.

Agree with you mate. Wilko looks ordinary unless the opposition is beat. In fairness he is a grafter but not much more unfortunately.

can we have him back then please????