*chefs kiss*

The longer we keep him , the longer it will take to sort the mess out

I have to say that any fans still saying we should keep RS to the end of the season are deluded - the guy is out of his depth , and is now taking both the team and the club backwards - we are becoming a laughing stock !
What also has to be considered is that keeping him to the end of the season creates other major problems for his successor. Teams are already looking at signings for next season ( I predict Martyn will be in the NRL , Ash will be off the Cats and Croft the NRL ) if he stays on.
By getting a new coach in now , it gives the guy a chance to look at the whole system - recruitment, training, conditioning , and the team as this all needs sorting . He will at least have a chance to do this , so we don`t waste next season , which is what will happen if RS stays to the end of the season, as well as the new guy being left with the dregs , that no one else wants , as far as new signings are concerned . To do this major review of our club , we need a tried and trusted experienced coach , and not the " trainee " currently in charge.

exactly. plus a new coach, if good, might persuade people like Croft to stay

It does make you wonder what Croft and Ackers think of Smiths coaching ability and tactics having previously played under a very good coach.

He's going to leave us in a terrible state if we dont get shot immediately, Friday night was as soft a performance as i can remember seeing, everyone involved really should be embarrassed, getting physically dominated and rag dolled like that, humiliating, or it should be.

The more I think about this the more I think we need to change now. I’d ask Shaun Wane if he would take the job for the rest of this year, but not longer, and then would look to bring in either Brad Arthur or Peter Wallace. Wane would clear out the rank culture, and could advise on players to keep or replace such that Arthur or Wallace would then be able to start with a clean slate.

The culture on the sporting side stinks and we nee a strong hand to clean that up first.

Rohan Smith is obviously a dead man walking, it’s just a matter of how long he’s allowed to stagger on or whether he removes himself from the nightmare. For most normal people the pressure would be almost unbearable, but I’m not sure how Smith is wired. There’s also the financial considerations for Smith and the club, and I’ve a feeling Smith will need to be shown the door rather than just walking away. It must be embarrassing for Smith to look anyone who knows him in the eye whether that’s behind the gates at Headingley or supporters that see him in his civvies. When you hear of the unrest amongst some St Helens fans while they sit at the top of the table, it’s easy to understand how the situation is becoming so toxic amongst the Leeds support base.

Just listened to a bit of the Lot Pod (good job guys), and they mentioned an interesting stat. Following the initial bounce in the half season where we got to the GF, Smith’s Leeds have only won 17 out of 41 games since. That’s appalling, other coaches have been shown the door for similar form, he can’t possibly stay.

If it's new coach time we should be reaching out now and see who can meet the criteria ( proven quality/ can come ASAP/ 3-4 weeks) rather than temp coach for half a season and then another new coach imo.

Brad Arthur or Jason Demitriou fit that bill.

Was JD highly regarded and tipped to be a top NRL coach?

Not sure what’s gone on at souths though.

The rumour is that at Souths he treated a couple of players - Cody Walker and Lattrell Mitchell - with kid gloves, and they weren't being to the same standards as other players, with cliques emerging in the squad. Burgess apparently wanted them bringing into line and the row that developed led to him leaving. They've been awful this season under Demetriou, but Souths had allowed their roster to age badly, with a poor front row (sounds familiar...) and letting Adam Reynolds go being seen as really poor decisions.

Arthur was Ok at Parra I think but had probably just run his course. Not helped this year by injury to Moses, but they've taken a few hammerings and it looks as though the players had stopped listening.

Right now I'd say Demetriou would be higher risk, but who knows? Arthur would send a big message of intent at least.