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| Quote rover49="rover49"I suppose the level of triviality is dependent on the skin your wearing.'"
No, it's trivial whatever your skin colour is.
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| Quote McClennan="McClennan"[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/14/thatcher-is-dead-but-who-reinvented-her-life?CMP=twt_guThatcher is dead but who reinvented her life?[/url'"
Tebbit comparing here to Jesus Christ
I wish she was the same as Christ, it would have meant she had never existed.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"No, it's trivial whatever your skin colour is.'"
Seriously? You really think it's trivial to refer to black people as 'gollis'?
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Seriously? You really think it's trivial to refer to black people as 'gollis'?'"
Your probably wasting your time, he's nipped out for a chinky or to the Paki shop.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead" During the January 1979 strike I was putting in 16 hour shifts: eight hours organising at Bevin House, Hull and eight hours on the cobbles,=#FF0000 preventing scab drivers from trying to undermine the principles of the strike.'"
Picketing is ok if it doesn't cause an obstruction or intimidation or violence. The fact that you use the word "preventing" shows your lack of democracy. Once pickets move from persuation to prevention you have stepped over the line.
I do not regard standing round a brazier as working.
Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"I'm still waiting for evidence of the power cuts and water & gas shortages prior to Thatcher BTW'"
What are you talking about?
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"I could only be a hypocrite if I'd praised Blair for his legacy or even voted for him. Neither happen to be the case.
And Blair gets plenty of criticism on here.'"
So you didn't vote for 13 years?
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"The difference being; until relatively recently rents, especially council house rents, were considerably lower than mortgage repayments. Councils, as landlords, were also more sympathetic to their tenants than private landlords. My early mortgage repayments were considerably more than friends who lived in council houses paid in rent. To achieve the mortgage we not only had to show we could afford the 20% deposit and the repayments, we also had to show two years of regular savings with the building society. A condition that few first-time buyers could meet today.
But housing cost (rent or mortgage)is only one aspect of wage slavery. Since the 1980s there has been a massive increase in non-mortgage personal debt. Debts that are used to buy cars and other consumer goods. When I applied for a bank loan in 1982 to buy a new (to me) car, I had to stump up 20% deposit in cash before the bank would entertain me. Now if a deposit is required, the lender will accept payment by credit card for both deposit and repayments. It's barmy.'"
Because people are FORCED to borrow aren't they? 
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"
While some highly skilled workers in a handful of sectors might be able to pick and choose employers, or waltz out of one company and straight into the same job at another, the situation is very different for the vast majority of ordinary workers. If they don't like the job they're in they have two options - put up with it or join the 'shirkers' on the dole. That's where the Unions come in.'"
This may describe your experience of working life but don't put the "vast majority of ordinary workers" into the same helpless pot as yourself.?
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"People paid for "stuff" from money they had saved or sometimes through HP. The only real debt a household may have was a mortgage for those who decided to buy rather than rent. But at that time rents accounted for only around 20% of household income, so really were affordable.'"
So why did the BP & Esso drivers go on strike for a 40% increase in 79?
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| Quote Lord Elpers="Lord Elpers"So why did the BP & Esso drivers go on strike for a 40% increase in 79?'"
Because they could
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"Because they could'"
So you think this is reasonable, rational, acceptable behaviour?
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| Quote Rock God X="Rock God X"Seriously? You really think it's trivial to refer to black people as 'gollis'?'"
I think referring to a black person as a golli is wrong, stupid, offensive and ridiculous. But this was a private conversation where I believe no black people were present.
The notion that the police should be investigating her use of the word and prosecuting her is ridiculous. There are probably 5 million crimes far more serious than this that they have to deal with. They don't have time to dealing with burglaries, robberies and muggings, but hey, the hated Prmie Minister's daughter said "Golli" and it's in the papers so let's rush in there and create a crime that we can solve. WTFever.
I think the BBC were probably right to fire her over it. I don't know what type of shows she was involved in or whether she did a good job on screen, but anyone caught using language like that is risking their job.
Do I think her using the term once gives justification to the s who are publicly celebrating Thatcher's death? No. They were going to celebrate anyway, whether Carol Thatcher was the greatest women who ever lived or just an average person with flaws. It was a lame justification.
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