SmokeyTA wrote:No. You wrong. You are stating that you saw and spoke to Jesus. As have many people at your church.
What exactly is wrong about that?
Quote:You are stating that Jesus spoke to you, not in some vague bullsh1t 'feeling' which you want to attribute to jesus, you arent stating that there was some phenomena that you interpreted as jesus. You arent even arguing that you have faith.
I have saving faith.
Quote:You are saying that Jesus spoke to you, you met him and air passed over his glottis in the larynx, was modified by the vocal tract, jaw, lips, tongue etc in sound waves which travelled through the air, into your ear, you recognised these as vowels and consonants which formed words and sentences using grammar and language which you processed as information.
Yes, Jesus spoke to me. Well done, you got there in the end.
You might be interested to know that I'm not just typing this; my fingertips are touching the keyboard very fast and the keys are sending electronic impulses through a computer to make text appear on screen.
Quote:That didnt happen through faith, it happened (if we suspend any sense of logic and pretend it really did happen) through well understood and commonly known processes. It isnt a matter of faith to (from your point of view) believe this. If you did see this, then the rational and logical response would be to accept it, to ignore it would be a real leap of faith, one you have explained that you 'a believer' werent prepared to make.
What isn't a matter of faith? Did I ever tout it as something that you have to believe in order for it to happen?
BTW the biblical definition of faith is not the atheistic 'belief without evidence'. It means trust and believing what has been promised to you from God.