Yours will be an MI6 agent with a chloroform-soaked hankie, no doubt.

At least the 'conspiratorial theorists' help to balance out the 'blame gamers'.

Perhaps it would be, if that was someone's argument. It isn't. You must know this, if you can read. As your echo Rumpelstiltskin would say, you are putting up a whopping great straw man. What excuse have you got for falsely conflating these two completely separate propositions, when the point has been explained ad nauseam?

And which "straw man", exactly, would that be then? Do you actually know what one is?



Tip: you'd look less foolish if you either addressed the points put to you, rather than play to an imaginary gallery, or if you can't deal with debate, then STFU.

Oh there is a gallery, it's not imaginary, and we rather like spats.



Encore!

A Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. Something, both you and Cronius have easily acheived over the last 4 or 5 pages. Shall we have a quick look and see?



let's start with my opinion on page 15, "That there was more to his (about this tragic woman) and it would all come out in the wash." Which prompted you to get out your knitting needles and begin the construction of your straw man with the rather bizarre observation of [iI'm sure you do, but what, if you're implying you have a good idea? I have already seen nutty conspiracy theories that the nurse was assassinated and it's all a cover-up, but then nowadays it is de rigueur for the lunatics to come out of the asylum for a while whenever there's a good conspiracy to be theorised.[/i



The error of your ways was pointed out you by Durham who highlighted your misundertanding, which somehow prompted Cronius to add his frankly bizzare offering of [iYou're reading into it what you want to see. But then everyone loves a conspiracy, don't they?

The House of Windsor bumping off a nurse for putting a prank call through. Really?!! It seems a whole new level of idiotic batsh*t lunacy has emerged.

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Indeed it has my friend! Feel free to step up and take the applause as co author!



It gets better dear reader. FA then obliges with [i

But when the sad facts are established at inquest, feel free to join the OP in a denouncement of the coroner as just a lackey in the establishment cover-up.

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I then take the opportunity to further clarify my thoughts, and Durham points out, quite correctly that Cronius and FA appear to be creating an arguement where none exists.

Which prompts the riposte from Cronius [i

Yes, details will emerge in an investigation. Bears also sh*t in woods. But it ain't gonna be 009 with chloroform and a rope.[/i



FA then returns to his task of Straw Man building with [iIn the face of the bleedin' obvious, I find completely speculative suggestions that she may have been killed to be the worst sort of baseless conspiracy speculation of which so many seem to be so fond'

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Whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that it is only him and Cronius, who are banging on ad naueum about any kind of conspiracy! 'Kin unbelievable!



Cronius adds in reply to Durham [iIn your words: "I dont think there is any conspiracy but there is more to this story".

Why do I feel I need to add a 'nudge-nudge, wink-wink' at the end of that?

"I'm not racist but..."

..."

[/i



yep, that straw man is just about complete. Just this final offering from Worzel [iYours will be an MI6 agent with a chloroform-soaked hankie, no doubt.[/i



So there we have it. Not a perfect straw man fallacy.....would we really expect that from these two? Perhaps I have credited the pair of them with more wit than they have shown, and it is more of a regurgitation of their own bizarre theories rather than a wilful missrepresentation of what was put before them. Does it really matter?







From a Master Debater such as you, that is a very valid point......

Give over ranting. Your first post (bizarrely) claims that the hospital will cover up their errors with news of the death, and then questions the manner of the death itself "what reasonably normal person kills themselves over a work incident". You then end with the bold and mysterious statement: "there is a lot more to this to come out in the wash".



The implications are there for all to see - despite your protestations to the contrary, you think there are sordid details and possibly mismanagement, a cover-up, etc all to emerge.



That your FIRST thought was to suggest hospital cover-up says a lot about your mindset. You want to see a cover-up, you like the idea of collusion and (yes, I'll say it) conspiracy. You cleverly play the conspiracy line down in your posts but then sneak it in and leave suspicion in the air. You attempt to misdirect by positioning yourself above conspiracy theories but can't resist going on to claim "there is a lot more to this to come out in the wash"....not just a few details, but "a LOT more". Dark and mysterious.



What, exactly? You've failed to answer that. What will come out in the wash?

All the facts have yet to emerge.



I keep telling you what will come out in the wash

the issues about her mental health

whether there were contributory factors to her suicide,

the role her managers played in the process or not etc etc.

I keep pointing this out yet you seem to keep suggesting there is nothing else to come out and that it is all a conspiracy theory.That is what will emerge in the wash.



However you are are a fine one to accuse others of jumping to conclusions without knowing the facts. Like the time you sympathised with the South African rugby player who went out and murdered three civilians for raping his daughter. Which you posted all over this board



Only problem was, the guy had never had a daughter.

You did not let the facts get in the way then.



Not only are you Cronus leader of the titans but you are the DELPHI Oracle. The all knowing , all seeing indavidual who knows all the facts that are worth knowing and can make your judgements on that .



Your opinions are as reliable as looking at a goats entrails to forsee the future.

What? Where have I said this? [iI'm[/i suggesting it's a conspiracy theory??? Are you thick or just plain ignorant? Do you actually understand the English language? For the second time - do you actually read the posts you reply to?





Again - what the hell are you going on about?? Smoking camel sh*t again? Losing the argument so you've decided to throw the conversation all over the place?



How about instead of wasting valuable server space with this moronic drivel, you go back and answer my response to you earlier.

You are the one accusing everyone else of having a conspiracy theory because we do not have the full facts.



When you have to resort to insults you have really lost the arguement.



Please tell us why those who still think there is a lot of information to come out are conspiracy theorists which is where the argument started.



You just keep changing the nature of the discussion

Look, when you post such utter tripe it's only worthy of insults.



But hang on - so do I think there's a conspiracy, or am I accusing you of thinking there's a conspiracy? You seemed to be muddled because you've said two different things in your last two posts.



Anyway, I've covered it several times in intimate detail. You and rumpelforeskin both claim not to believe there is some conspiracy or cover-up and that you are above such theories, yet you both continue imply some conspiracy or cover-up in every post you make.



If you don't understand by now or are choosing to ignore my posts to just carry on banging away with this question, there's no point bothering. Go back, read what I've said to you and rumpelforeskin and let it soak in.

I have been clear in that i do not have enough information about a number of matters which i keep asking you about

What was her Mental Health

Were there other factors that contributed to her suicide

did management deal with it properly.



You seem to think these are not important issues. Most reasonable peole would before they jump on a bandwagon.



If they are important say so, if you know the answers say so, if you think we do not have this information then surely you agree there is more information to come out.



It is simple really it is just you dont seem to understand it



It is simple. Answer the questions and stop accusing everyone else of being a conspiracy theorist.



I notice that you did not answer the comment about you defending a racist South African killing three people who raped his daughter when he did not even have a daughter.