The most impressive thing about st Helen's currently is their defence. Their attack is good but much of this is off the back of defence that strangles the opposition into submission. If we improved our defence to that level and bring in some quality forwards we can be a match for saints and wire. No half back combo in the comp is better than Kelly and sneyd and throw in connor and we have as good as anyone. Just need to get some dominant forwards

Must be the smallest back rower in the NRL?? But he is possibly one of the strongest players around. The point being, no player is perfect. Connor may lack a bit of real speed, but his other qualities make up for that. The ability to open a defence and off load like he can would be a far more prized attribute than speed, IMO.

The post below is from the Leeds board. Think it's a bit harsh tbh. I agree that we're not close to the cc winning sides but we're better than garbage.

The fact of the matter is you have 2 teams who are way in front of the rest then all the rest can beat each other on any given day but i don't say that in a good way i mean all 10 of those teams can stink the house out for a lot of the season so it does not take a great deal to beat them if you are anything like on the day.

Hull FC will likely finish 3rd for example and lets be honest they are garbage and not even anywhere near the side they were when they won back to back CC's, that side should really be down where we are but because the quality is so bad they are in the mix.

I loved the Platinum times in the 50's when we reached 3 consecutive league championship finals and finished league champions in 2 of them. Been nothing like them since.

If you are talking speed than Bateman is very fast for a second row

I don’t disagree , just thinking from an nrl perspective, and imo don’t think they’ll be mass of offers for him , or one better than hull will offer