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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Sorry,but youre wrong - below is from the rule book.
Losing possession 8.
– intentionally
– accidentally
A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the
ball other than by bringing it into play in the
prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he
accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be
formed except after the fifth ">play-the-ball.'"
So you're saying that every time a player loses the ball following a tackle, a scrum must be called instantly? No advantage played under any conditions?
Refs have been getting it wrong for years, then.
Edit: Actually, having read the notes to the rules on losing the ball, it's not abundantly clear what should happen when the ball is released voluntarily rather than accidentally. Also, without reviewing the footage, it's not clear whether the momentum of the tackle was continuous or whether Blaymire was stopped dead and then dragged. If the former, the tackle wasn't complete until he stopped moving; if the latter, it should have been a penalty to Wakefield.
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Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Sorry,but youre wrong - below is from the rule book.
Losing possession 8.
– intentionally
– accidentally
A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the
ball other than by bringing it into play in the
prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he
accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be
formed except after the fifth ">play-the-ball.'"
So you're saying that every time a player loses the ball following a tackle, a scrum must be called instantly? No advantage played under any conditions?
Refs have been getting it wrong for years, then.
Edit: Actually, having read the notes to the rules on losing the ball, it's not abundantly clear what should happen when the ball is released voluntarily rather than accidentally. Also, without reviewing the footage, it's not clear whether the momentum of the tackle was continuous or whether Blaymire was stopped dead and then dragged. If the former, the tackle wasn't complete until he stopped moving; if the latter, it should have been a penalty to Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Correct decision, but I think what someone was getting at earlier in the thread was that when challenged why the hooter had gone when he'd stopped the clock, Bentham clearly said to Briers (I think) that he hadn't stopped the clock.
It was obvious from the tv coverage that he had and the timekeepers had missed it, so why the need for him to tell a porkie about it?'"
Maybe he was trying to make the distinction between him signalling that the clock should be stopped and the actual stopping of the clock. He did go on to make that point more clearly by saying that he wasn't responsible for the timekeeping.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Correct decision, but I think what someone was getting at earlier in the thread was that when challenged why the hooter had gone when he'd stopped the clock, Bentham clearly said to Briers (I think) that he hadn't stopped the clock.
It was obvious from the tv coverage that he had and the timekeepers had missed it, so why the need for him to tell a porkie about it?'"
Taking the conversation as a whole, I'm sure the point he was making was that he didn't, doesn't and can't stop the clock on account of him not being the timekeeper. I don't think he intended to suggest he had not given the signal to the timekeepers.
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| hmmmm but if the ref had gone to stop the clock then the ball is dead, hooter goes to signal full time, should he not have allowed the scrum to be taken and blow full time after the next tackle/dead ball?
It happens with pens. If a team is awarded a pen and then the hooter goes afterwards they can still take the pen. They can kick to touch, take the tap and then play on until a tackle is complete or the ball is dead either through scoring/knocking on etc
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| Quote ="charlie"hmmmm but if the ref had gone to stop the clock then the ball is dead, hooter goes to signal full time, should he not have allowed the scrum to be taken and blow full time after the next tackle/dead ball?
It happens with pens. If a team is awarded a pen and then the hooter goes afterwards they can still take the pen. They can kick to touch, take the tap and then play on until a tackle is complete or the ball is dead either through scoring/knocking on etc'" this has already been covered, try reading again or look at a rule book
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Quote ="crucrucrusaders"That is a joke in itself and if you are a fan of any other sport looking in you'd find it quite ">unbelievable.'"
Several prominent PL referees are Liverpool fans. It's not unknown.
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Quote ="crucrucrusaders"That is a joke in itself and if you are a fan of any other sport looking in you'd find it quite ">unbelievable.'"
Several prominent PL referees are Liverpool fans. It's not unknown.
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