With respect we already are real top 8 contenders.

I know what you mean, but I'd wait 6 or 8 weeks before putting it so unequivocally. There's much to be positive about. However, so far, recruitment hasn't been as good as I hoped for, or even quite as good as I expected. So far.



If things go our way we can make the 8. However, I said the same before 2016 and we all know how that turned out. We've got a more experienced coach and more depth than then, and preseason hasn't revealed much either way. James Webster's quotes about us finding ways to play with a 'mobile' pack filled me with trepidation a few weeks ago, but there were some slight indications on the BBC preview show that some teams are looking to play a more attacking, expansive style. Which brings its own challenges, but maybe we won't get smashed down the middle quite so often.



The real stuff starts soon!

I feel if we have better look with injuries we will do it, and feel tim will bring in quality to add to team. If we get Luke page it would help sure up defence and attack. Help Maguire out by getting him a quality partner don't get me wrong Atkins will be Brill. But not quiet ready for super league intensity.. I think first 4 weeks big shot wakey good strong team. Leeds Maguire affect, Catalan we nearly beat them last year with our young kids in, and Salford hmmm blood bath maybe.. they will want to injure our players and if lui has rubbish game who knows

We have the highest qualified coach in Super League, the best stand off and arguably hooker and the likes of Masoe, Scruton, Jewitt and Mulhern in the pack not to mention Carney on the wing. Look at Widnes, Salford and Huddersfield we should be well ahead of all them. I remain concerned about Wakefield’s size but it seems they have made a planning error and only havea three day turnaround from landing back after warm weather training so a perfect chance to get two points.

Chester an error in preseason planning? Unheard of.

Wakefield's biggest miss will be Kear but that will bite more as the season goes on.

Lawler and Addy will be misses for us. They went well in the play offs.

Quinlan, Carney, McGuire, vital in the backs and our 2 centres as the drop off in the replacements quality may make things difficult

Wow, okay.



Brian Smith was the "Highest qualified coach in Superleague" when he was at Wakefield, with a massive history of success.. look were that got them - Sheens had all the support in the world at Salford to attract players and could not turn them into a decent SL outfit - Watson come in and did twice the job he did - Sorry but it`s true.



Scruton and Jewitt haven't seen SL quality in years, never seen. Masoe showed at Saints just how lazy he was on a week to week basis and only showed up in big games, which im sure some Saints fans were happy with but i doubt HKR will be involved in those games.



Lunt is a decent hooker is nowhere near "Arguably best in the league"



Parcell

Houghton

Clark

McShane

Wood

Randell

Roby



Are all names i would have over Lunt at Leeds from what i have seen.



If you think you have the best stand off in the league in Mcguire then im sorry you really are way of the mark and delusional. His game has been deteriorating for the last 3 seasons, he can no longer keep up to the pace of SL on a week to week basis - Yes his performance in the GF was incredible and we have seen a few of those great games from him over the last few seasons but unfortunately they are few and far between. He has been a Leeds great, and i wouldn't take that away from him but i and many other Leeds fans have been more than frustrated with his performances in the past few years. It does pain me to see Danny play for another SL club but i would of been majorly disappointing had we have given him another playing contract.



I don`t disagree that you have top 8 aspirations, but to be throwing about wild statements like your making is going to make you look a little silly come 5 days time.

Smith saved Wakey from relegation. That was what he was asked to do. Watson was the coach at Salford. TS never coached at Salford. These are three facts. The rest of your post is opinion which you are entitled to. Others obviously do not agree with you.

With regards to your comment about Danny McGuire. It's true that he probably doesn't have the pace that he once had but he more than makes up for that through his experience. He is one of those players, whether it be in football, Rugby league or any other sport for that matter, that is always one or two steps ahead of everyone else in what is happening on the pitch, his reading of the game and situations is second to non.

McGuire is one of the modern era’s most decorated players: only one man, his close friend Peacock, has won more Grand Finals than the seven McGuire has won.

That experience will be invaluable and worth an extra man in some games, plus, like i said will make up for the lack of genuine pace that he may not have in abbundance anymore.

See the Salford CO "laughing behind the scenes" and he can "smell the desperation" after KR approach for Lui? Hope we give them a good stuffing when we play them and still wouldn't be a huge surprise to see Lui sign at some point? Think that game will be very tasty as mentioned earlier. Interesting times

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So you actually think Mcguire is the best stand off in the league and Lunt is the best hooker in the league - I`m sure its an "Opinion" that a lot of people share with me when i say there not at all, nowhere near.



Try going across city and swapping them for Kelly and Houghton and you would be laughed out the door as you would with most SL clubs bar maybe Widnes/Salford.

I'd have Lunt over houghton any day

Please read my previous post again. I never mentioned any players. My post was merely to point out the inaccuracy of the points you made about the coaches.

Please read your own post again? I was responding to this bit - "The rest of your post is opinion which you are entitled to. Others obviously do not agree with you." To which the previous posters opinion was that Mcguire and Lunt were the best player in SL in there positions. Which i responded by saying there would be a lot of people with the same opinion? Do keep up - Way some of you lot are talking you`ll be real contenders to win the league this season.



Also yes your right, Smith number 1 job was probably to keep Wakefield up and he did that (Just about) but what was his job season after? When he had a lot of support from there chairman, had there biggest playing budget in a long time and decided he had had enough after been thrashed for 6 or 7 games?



I don`t buy into the fact Sheens had nothing to do with coaching at Salford, if you do then fair enough.

Yes, I did post that. You obviously need help with your comprehension. I said "others obviously do not agree". I did not say I did or did not agree. What did you mean by Smith just about kept Wakey up? Just about does not come into it. He did keep them up. Again I did not say that TS had nothing to do with coaching at Salford. I said he was not the coach. You just seem to want to bandy words. Of course that's just my opinion.

For a somewhat more representative view, the average of 16 predictions on the HullKRfans.com forum is 9.65th (i.e. slightly closer to 10th than 9th). And under the old 1 up, 1 down system that'd be a decent performance for a newly promoted team.



While I'm hoping for better (and more coherent team performances in SL than we had pre-Sheens), my reasonable expectation also currently sits at 9th or 10th, which'd mean 4 home games in the shizzle 8s. I think 10 wins from 23 will be a stretch... but in a short season, one decent run of results would give us a shot.



Fingers crossed that one of the wealthy clubs is struggling when they finally decide on the format for 2019, #beingtransparentisnotnecessarilythesameashavingtransparency

We attract some lovely visitors on here.Pedant magnets.

Hope you're all ready for another million pound game !! Watch Maguire get injured in the first game, he's only at Rovers to supplement his pension, at least Burrow had the decency to retire.

I just watched Simon Clark’s (B&W to his core) slot on Look North and I swear blind he just referred to Danny McGuire as the Man of the Match in the Grand Final.



I would suggest it’s you who should have the decency to retire. 4 posts since registering is 4 too many. #cockwomble

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ boring bustard

Your level of ignorance is quite astounding.

I thought he'd referred to him as fanny mcguire but I may have misheard

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Reverting to type then Jake. You just cannot help yourself can you?

Me? I'm me. get over it. I always thought it was impossible to dislike the whining git mguire any more but then he signed for rovers

Can't wait for the derbies

Any concrete rumours of who this new player we have signed.. surely with all this font of knowledge, and with all the players mums/dads/sister/brother etc on here someone will of found out.. would be great to know before wakey game