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| Well if true about page I think Tim knows what he is doing better then all of us
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| Trying to sign a rival teams key playmaker a week before the season starts is a little bit underhand, but hardly surprising. Desperate times, desperate measures n all that.
Luke Page - ran hard & looked aggressive for PNG. If he's any good for you, we'll pick him up in a couple of years anyway.
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| Quote DGM="DGM"Trying to sign a rival teams key playmaker a week before the season starts is a little bit underhand, but hardly surprising. Desperate times, desperate measures n all that.
Luke Page - ran hard & looked aggressive for PNG. If he's any good for you, we'll pick him up in a couple of years anyway.'"
Who said we'd gone for him a week before the season starts? The bid could have been made weeks ago. The HDM only released the story yesterday and the club only made a statement after Salford released their statement in reaction to the HDM story.
Its quite sad that you feel the need to come onto our board. Your team are 2 times cup winners and have battled it out at the top of the league for the past couple of years, but you still feel the need to attempt to wind up fans of a newly promoted team who will probably be no threat to your team this season.
I guess you're having trouble shaking off that small club mentality. Oh well good luck for the season anyway.
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| DGM - Explain why trying to sign Lui is underhanded ?? Your club wouldnt stoop so low - would they......
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| Quote DGM="DGM"Trying to sign a rival teams key playmaker a week before the season starts is a little bit underhand, but hardly surprising. Desperate times, desperate measures n all that.
Luke Page - ran hard & looked aggressive for PNG. If he's any good for you, we'll pick him up in a couple of years anyway.'" thanks for your much valued opinion, ZZZZZZZZZZ so sleepy
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| Lui would be a very good signing for you guys, not only would it add a bit more quality to your squad but would also considerably weaken what are currently seen as your relegation rivals.
I remember Wakefield doing something similar a few years ago when they took Sammut and Scruton from Bradford about a week before the season started.. It`s a dog eat dog world, if its within the rules of the game it`s okay for me.
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| If you get Lui, you'll be real top 8 contenders in my opinion, he's class and there aren't many better than him available. suppose it all depends on how much you're willing to pay. If Marwan had been in charge, I think you'd have a better chance of pulling this one off; the fact that supporters now run the club might mean they're unwilling to part with their best player, especially after losing Ben MM.
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| Quote DGM="DGM"Trying to sign a rival teams key playmaker a week before the season starts is a little bit underhand, but hardly surprising. Desperate times, desperate measures n all that.
Luke Page - ran hard & looked aggressive for PNG. If he's any good for you, we'll pick him up in a couple of years anyway.'"
1. Just because the story came out this week, doesn't necessarily mean that is when the offer was submitted
2. But it wouldn't be remotely underhand as I define the term, anyway
3. If we were to do something opportunistic and ruthless, I'd be utterly delighted. Trying to do things the 'right way' as defined by our rivals bought us a world of pain. We need to have come out of that with a more cut-throat attitude. We are here to make life as difficult as possible for our rivals in every possible way, so that we may one day sup on their tears
4. 'Humorously' playing up to the label of arrogance can, when it becomes routine and ritualized, become a mundane reality
Apart from that, I completely agree with you.
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"1. Just because the story came out this week, doesn't necessarily mean that is when the offer was submitted
2. But it wouldn't be remotely underhand as I define the term, anyway
3. If we were to do something opportunistic and ruthless, I'd be utterly delighted. Trying to do things the 'right way' as defined by our rivals bought us a world of pain. We need to have come out of that with a more cut-throat attitude. We are here to make life as difficult as possible for our rivals in every possible way, so that we may one day sup on their tears
4. 'Humorously' playing up to the label of arrogance can, when it becomes routine and ritualized, become a mundane reality
Apart from that, I completely agree with you.'"
You didn't need to number your points, I'd have been capable of picking them out of a paragraph. Probably.
Ok, it's [ipossible[/i the offer may not have been made this week, but it's a reasonable assumption to make that it was pretty recently. I do see it as underhand. At best you manage pinch a rival teams (arguably) best player & stregthen, at worst you've disrupted a rival teams pre-season and unsettled their (arguably again) best player. It's a win-win for Rovers whatever the outcome, however genuine or realistic the offer, and I doubt you'd be so "utterly delighted" had similar occurred with a club coming in for Lunt or McGuire.
I assume the arrogant tag is in relation to the Luke Page comment? You may find it arrogant, but a precedent has been set in recent seasons and we can boast a lot of ex-Rovers talent in our current squad.
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| Quote DGM="DGM" It's a win-win for Rovers whatever the outcome, however genuine or realistic the offer, and I doubt you'd be so "utterly delighted" had similar occurred with a club coming in for Lunt or McGuire.'"
No, just as I'm utterly delighted to beat another team, but I'm disappointed when they beat us. I rarely, if ever, complain about the dog-eat-dog attitude of our rivals - certainly not as often as I bemoaned our failure to emulate it in recent years.
Quote DGM="DGM"I assume the arrogant tag is in relation to the Luke Page comment? You may find it arrogant, but a precedent has been set in recent seasons and we can boast a lot of ex-Rovers talent in our current squad.'"
I also remember Wilf boasting of how rarely this happened in the past. But you're not him and tbf Hull are a undeniably a strong club now. I admire tremendously what Radford has done and how he has done it.
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| Whoever it is that we have coming in(awaiting a visa) I really hope it is a quality signing, as TS and NH have stated that,s what we are looking for, because on the display against London its obvious we need some more quality and quick.
London bossed the game for long periods and Sammutt walked through us too often. I know it was only a "friendly" but this was not a Super League team...All the guys round me were saying the same, we look lightweight. They were making ten yards almost every tackle at one point and were bullying us. Admittedly it changed a bit later on but the warning signs are there.
We need at least two to three more.. Please lets not go down the 2016 situation again.
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| Total agree ower attack looked so flat we need a quality half back and a good second row at least if that would of been agenst super league team we would of got hammered
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| Some are saying we would have got hammered by a super league team would we I do not think so so wait and see
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| Quote Philydelphiia="Philydelphiia"If you get Lui, you'll be real top 8 contenders in my opinion, he's class and there aren't many better than him available. suppose it all depends on how much you're willing to pay. If Marwan had been in charge, I think you'd have a better chance of pulling this one off; the fact that supporters now run the club might mean they're unwilling to part with their best player, especially after losing Ben MM.'"
With respect we already are real top 8 contenders.
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| Quote Zook Ema's Hose="Zook Ema's Hose"With respect we already are real top 8 contenders.'"
I know what you mean, but I'd wait 6 or 8 weeks before putting it so unequivocally. There's much to be positive about. However, so far, recruitment hasn't been as good as I hoped for, or even quite as good as I expected. So far.
If things go our way we can make the 8. However, I said the same before 2016 and we all know how that turned out. We've got a more experienced coach and more depth than then, and preseason hasn't revealed much either way. James Webster's quotes about us finding ways to play with a 'mobile' pack filled me with trepidation a few weeks ago, but there were some slight indications on the BBC preview show that some teams are looking to play a more attacking, expansive style. Which brings its own challenges, but maybe we won't get smashed down the middle quite so often.
The real stuff starts soon!
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| I feel if we have better look with injuries we will do it, and feel tim will bring in quality to add to team. If we get Luke page it would help sure up defence and attack. Help Maguire out by getting him a quality partner don't get me wrong Atkins will be Brill. But not quiet ready for super league intensity.. I think first 4 weeks big shot wakey good strong team. Leeds Maguire affect, Catalan we nearly beat them last year with our young kids in, and Salford hmmm blood bath maybe.. they will want to injure our players and if lui has rubbish game who knows
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| Quote Mild Rover="Mild Rover"I know what you mean, but I'd wait 6 or 8 weeks before putting it so unequivocally. There's much to be positive about. However, so far, recruitment hasn't been as good as I hoped for, or even quite as good as I expected. So far.
If things go our way we can make the 8. However, I said the same before 2016 and we all know how that turned out. We've got a more experienced coach and more depth than then, and preseason hasn't revealed much either way. James Webster's quotes about us finding ways to play with a 'mobile' pack filled me with trepidation a few weeks ago, but there were some slight indications on the BBC preview show that some teams are looking to play a more attacking, expansive style. Which brings its own challenges, but maybe we won't get smashed down the middle quite so often.
The real stuff starts soon!'"
We have the highest qualified coach in Super League, the best stand off and arguably hooker and the likes of Masoe, Scruton, Jewitt and Mulhern in the pack not to mention Carney on the wing. Look at Widnes, Salford and Huddersfield we should be well ahead of all them. I remain concerned about Wakefield’s size but it seems they have made a planning error and only havea three day turnaround from landing back after warm weather training so a perfect chance to get two points.
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| Quote Zook Ema's Hose="Zook Ema's Hose"We have the highest qualified coach in Super League, the best stand off and arguably hooker and the likes of Masoe, Scruton, Jewitt and Mulhern in the pack not to mention Carney on the wing. Look at Widnes, Salford and Huddersfield we should be well ahead of all them. I remain concerned about Wakefield’s size but it seems they have made a planning error and only havea three day turnaround from landing back after warm weather training so a perfect chance to get two points.'"
Chester an error in preseason planning? Unheard of.
Wakefield's biggest miss will be Kear but that will bite more as the season goes on.
Lawler and Addy will be misses for us. They went well in the play offs.
Quinlan, Carney, McGuire, vital in the backs and our 2 centres as the drop off in the replacements quality may make things difficult
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| Quote Zook Ema's Hose="Zook Ema's Hose"We have the highest qualified coach in Super League, the best stand off and arguably hooker and the likes of Masoe, Scruton, Jewitt and Mulhern in the pack not to mention Carney on the wing. Look at Widnes, Salford and Huddersfield we should be well ahead of all them. I remain concerned about Wakefield’s size but it seems they have made a planning error and only havea three day turnaround from landing back after warm weather training so a perfect chance to get two points.'"
Wow, okay.
Brian Smith was the "Highest qualified coach in Superleague" when he was at Wakefield, with a massive history of success.. look were that got them - Sheens had all the support in the world at Salford to attract players and could not turn them into a decent SL outfit - Watson come in and did twice the job he did - Sorry but it`s true.
Scruton and Jewitt haven't seen SL quality in years, never seen. Masoe showed at Saints just how lazy he was on a week to week basis and only showed up in big games, which im sure some Saints fans were happy with but i doubt HKR will be involved in those games.
Lunt is a decent hooker is nowhere near "Arguably best in the league"
Parcell
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Clark
McShane
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Are all names i would have over Lunt at Leeds from what i have seen.
If you think you have the best stand off in the league in Mcguire then im sorry you really are way of the mark and delusional. His game has been deteriorating for the last 3 seasons, he can no longer keep up to the pace of SL on a week to week basis - Yes his performance in the GF was incredible and we have seen a few of those great games from him over the last few seasons but unfortunately they are few and far between. He has been a Leeds great, and i wouldn't take that away from him but i and many other Leeds fans have been more than frustrated with his performances in the past few years. It does pain me to see Danny play for another SL club but i would of been majorly disappointing had we have given him another playing contract.
I don`t disagree that you have top 8 aspirations, but to be throwing about wild statements like your making is going to make you look a little silly come 5 days time.
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| Quote homme vaste="homme vaste"Wow, okay.
Brian Smith was the "Highest qualified coach in Superleague" when he was at Wakefield, with a massive history of success.. look were that got them - Sheens had all the support in the world at Salford to attract players and could not turn them into a decent SL outfit - Watson come in and did twice the job he did - Sorry but it`s true.
Scruton and Jewitt haven't seen SL quality in years, never seen. Masoe showed at Saints just how lazy he was on a week to week basis and only showed up in big games, which im sure some Saints fans were happy with but i doubt HKR will be involved in those games.
Lunt is a decent hooker is nowhere near "Arguably best in the league"
Parcell
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Are all names i would have over Lunt at Leeds from what i have seen.
If you think you have the best stand off in the league in Mcguire then im sorry you really are way of the mark and delusional. His game has been deteriorating for the last 3 seasons, he can no longer keep up to the pace of SL on a week to week basis - Yes his performance in the GF was incredible and we have seen a few of those great games from him over the last few seasons but unfortunately they are few and far between. He has been a Leeds great, and i wouldn't take that away from him but i and many other Leeds fans have been more than frustrated with his performances in the past few years. It does pain me to see Danny play for another SL club but i would of been majorly disappointing had we have given him another playing contract.
I don`t disagree that you have top 8 aspirations, but to be throwing about wild statements like your making is going to make you look a little silly come 5 days time.'"
Smith saved Wakey from relegation. That was what he was asked to do. Watson was the coach at Salford. TS never coached at Salford. These are three facts. The rest of your post is opinion which you are entitled to. Others obviously do not agree with you.
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| Quote homme vaste="homme vaste"Wow, okay.
Brian Smith was the "Highest qualified coach in Superleague" when he was at Wakefield, with a massive history of success.. look were that got them - Sheens had all the support in the world at Salford to attract players and could not turn them into a decent SL outfit - Watson come in and did twice the job he did - Sorry but it`s true.
Scruton and Jewitt haven't seen SL quality in years, never seen. Masoe showed at Saints just how lazy he was on a week to week basis and only showed up in big games, which im sure some Saints fans were happy with but i doubt HKR will be involved in those games.
Lunt is a decent hooker is nowhere near "Arguably best in the league"
Parcell
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Are all names i would have over Lunt at Leeds from what i have seen.
If you think you have the best stand off in the league in Mcguire then im sorry you really are way of the mark and delusional. His game has been deteriorating for the last 3 seasons, he can no longer keep up to the pace of SL on a week to week basis - Yes his performance in the GF was incredible and we have seen a few of those great games from him over the last few seasons but unfortunately they are few and far between. He has been a Leeds great, and i wouldn't take that away from him but i and many other Leeds fans have been more than frustrated with his performances in the past few years. It does pain me to see Danny play for another SL club but i would of been majorly disappointing had we have given him another playing contract.
I don`t disagree that you have top 8 aspirations, but to be throwing about wild statements like your making is going to make you look a little silly come 5 days time.'"
With regards to your comment about Danny McGuire. It's true that he probably doesn't have the pace that he once had but he more than makes up for that through his experience. He is one of those players, whether it be in football, Rugby league or any other sport for that matter, that is always one or two steps ahead of everyone else in what is happening on the pitch, his reading of the game and situations is second to non.
McGuire is one of the modern era’s most decorated players: only one man, his close friend Peacock, has won more Grand Finals than the seven McGuire has won.
That experience will be invaluable and worth an extra man in some games, plus, like i said will make up for the lack of genuine pace that he may not have in abbundance anymore.
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